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From: [e-mail] (Eric Kornblum)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave Faster on the Mac?
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:56:17 -0800
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First off, the OS won't be holding back the rendering. True, the OS isn't
fully native, but most of it (and the chuunks that are especially
important & are used the most) have already been ported. And the rendering
doesn't depend heavily on OS functions.

Second, the PowerPC is a better chip at most things.

Third, regardless of the Mac OS and PowerPC and any speculation, we're
just going to have to wait until LightWave is released for the Mac and
see. It's supposed to be out sometime this month, and I plan on buying it
for my PowerMac 8500 :)

Oh...and for a Fourth thing, if you want to talk 500mhz chips...check out
http://www.exp.com/

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Walter (Jay) Turberville ) writes:

>You should
>NOT lose the money that you put into the initial student version but
likewise
>you should not be able to use that version commercially either.

  Not that I'm disagreeing or anything, but how the hell is anyone going
to know if his work is being done on a student version or a full version?



David Carlson
CONTINUUM
3D graphics and animation

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Better stars? Correction
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Adam Chrystie wrote:

>  Well, try adding some fractal noise on the diffusion channel to alter
> the colors betwen the stars..


Doh..slap slap..made a lil boo boo..it is more impotant to have the
fracctal pattern running through the luminosity chanel...as stars should
not be affected by the scene lights.


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How can I get a transparent object to cast a shadow using a point light
instead of a shadow mapped spot light?

Thanks in advance.

--
Morten Merrill Steen
Freelance 3D Animator
IRC: *Stubing*
*Amiga 4000/040 - 18MB - 1.62GB - Picasso II - AmigaOS & MacOS 7.5.3*
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From: Catherine Leah Palmer <[e-mail]>
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Andrew,
      I hope this info is useful. If I've gone into too much detail then
I apologise, but I thought too much is better than too little.
      There's a program called Polyform: try www.antigravity.com in the
US, possibly AMG-Premier 0171-468-3444 in London. This program converts
between just about every modeller there is or has been, but as it's also
a modeller it's expensive ($275) for just conversions.
      I don't know about second-party plug-ins for 3DS, but DXF filters
are provided on the program CD (assuming you have it!).
      First, make sure you have the Translate 3D plug-in loaded into
modeller; this can be confirmed by going to objects/custom and seeing if
there's an entry for 'translator 3D options'. If there is, you're OK,
otherwise load the plug-in in the normal manner, and when loading a DXF
don't forget to change the default 'Objects' to 'All Files'.
      For both 2D and 3D files, single lines (point to point) will load
in as a line polygon with a vertex at either end, whilst multi-lines
(more than two vertices) will load as a polygon with the first and last
vertices joined.
      Surface names are derived from that of the layer name (or
numerical if not named), though all have the default grey colour, and
are double-sided.

In article <[e-mail]>, Andrew Fisher
<[e-mail]> writes
>I`ve been lookin around on the web & FTP sites for good examples of
>quality objects and scene files to show off the power of lightwave.  It
>seems all the good stuff is either in 3DS or DXF format. Does anybody
>know how to load these files into lightwave or perhaps knows of a good
>shareware util which can help.
>
>Thanks.

--
Catherine Leah Palmer

Turnpike evaluation. For Turnpike information, mailto:[e-mail]

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From: Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Better stars?
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Joe Stratmann wrote:
>
> I've been playing around with some space shots and the star background
> looks "dead".  I've used random stars as well as actual stars.  But the
> stars are all the same size and just seem to have no life to them.
>
> Can anyone offer some tips on how to make this look better?
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe

 Well, try adding some fractal noise on the diffusion channel to alter
the colors betwen the stars..also assign a few surface names to them so
you can alter the  hue colors a bit...put some velocity on the textures
if you require twinkles..hmmm or use glow if you are brave..you might
have to comp the stars if you use glow though...glow sometimes causes
weird results when it interacts with other surfaces...

Adam Chrystie


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From: [e-mail] (Dwight M Evers)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave 5.0 - Educational Discount - Limitations?
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me ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]> wrote:
<<<snip>>>
: That's kinda rediculous when you think about it.  You go to a college,
: buy lightwave (as you are studying for an art degree, probably in
: Animation), and when you get the degree, which you also paid for, you
: can't use the same software that got you through school, commercially?
: I doubt seriously I'd pay for another copy of Lightwave just because I
: finally graduated from college and need to support myself.  Then have
: to sell my other copy of Lightwave to a person (who MUST be a student
: with a valid ID).   Don't think so.  I am returning to college in Jan,
: and am gonna buy Lightwave for school, and use it on side projects
: which I might make money from.  Call it an INTERNSHIP if you want.
: Guess I'll meet with Newtek lawyers when the time comes.
I have always been curious about this topic.

MAX has a little message I heard that said something like,"FOR ED USE
ONLY" not "NO MOMMERCIAL USE"

So if I OWN the software, and I gradute (Dec...YEAH!!), do I then have to
pay extra to keep my software? Do I have to upgrade if I do not use my
wares for profit? What gives? I am sending out resumes using MS Word for
Students, does that make is illegal?

If there is a way to upgrade to the Pro version at a reasonable price,
say $100, I might consider it, but not $1000+ like what Autodesk is asking.

IMHO.

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From: [e-mail] (Jack Campbell)
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Pictures also put on mouse pads and T-shirts.

--
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computer files. 24x36 $18 + $5 shipping
Pictures also put on T-shirts and mouse pads.
CD recording $38 for file backup. IRIS 3047,NovaJet III,Electrostatic
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From: Elliot Bain <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bill Gates copied Apple's OS!!! HA!!!!
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Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:
>
> In article <5685bc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chris Golchert) writes:
> >From: [e-mail] (Chris Golchert)
> >Subject: Re: Bill Gates copied Apple's OS!!! HA!!!!
> >Date: 11 Nov 1996 21:20:44 GMT
>
> >I'm not a computer history major, but..what was BG/MS's last original
> >idea?
>
> >Explorer?   Netscape?............................. Mosaic
> >Windows?    Mac and Amiga ten years earlier ...... Xerox/PARC
> >Basic?      Didn't he steal that too? ............ There are zillions
> >DOS?        From CP/M ............................ UNIX
> >MSNBC       his attempt at CNN ................... I don' watch much
>
> History is full of great ideas that the were capitalized on by someone other
> than the person who first came up with it.  I don't think GE invented the
> lightbulb.  Nor did Panasonic invent the radio and I don't thing that
> Chevrolet invented the automobile.
>
> Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
> Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
> http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber

Since this thread began, Gates' net worth has increased by $2 Billion,
to a whopping $20 Billion. My guess is that he's laughing all the way to
the bank, thinking about all those people who think bad things about
him....On second thought, I bet he doesn't give a shit.

--
Elliot Bain
Laurell Creative Services
614.459.4404

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All kinds of large format printing done here.

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CD recording $38 for file backup. IRIS 3047,NovaJet III,Electrostatic
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From: Geoff Suttor <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Query on texturing using multiple identical sub-texture setting
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That not exactly what he's asking, he wants to be able to copy the
say, specular settings to the diffuse settings for example. Not
the whole texture, and I dont think there is a short way.
Too bad I guess! Maybe in LW6.0

Geoff Suttor
Animator.
Digital Video Productions Australia.
WK: mailto:[e-mail]
HM: mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec

david goerndt wrote:
>
> Robin Luiten wrote:
> >
> > I find for many of the thing things I build that I have diffuse
> > and specularity and possibly bump textures with identical parameters.
> >
> > Is there some easy way to ensure these are correctly lined up.
> >
> > Its not so bad with images as there are less parameters but while
> > tweaking some of the noise or wood procedural textures I miss a
> > setting once in a while and have to revisit things to check it all
> > when it shows up in a render
> >
> > Robin Luiten
>
> Just copy/paste the data from one texture setting to another.
>
> --
> "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, until you can find a rock"
>                                                    Joe Bob Briggs

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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I recently posted a request on how to blend one texture into
> another. specifically I want to make half a saxphone look like
> stone, the other like a normal saxaphone.
>
> I received no replys, but I believe I may have figured out a
> solution. However, it relys on placing one copy of the object
> exactly inside a slightly larger version. I can't user the same
> side because LW gets confused with the polygons occupying the
> same space.
>
> Therefore, my question is whether anybody out there knows of a
> plugin that will enable me to enlarge the saxaphone. A normal
> scale will not suffice, as this moves all the points away from
> the centre of the object. What I require is something that will
> move each point along it's normal, regardless of direction in
> relation to the object centre.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jason

Could you do a Smooth Shift of all the polys? That way the polys are
expanding in the direction of the normals.

Paddy

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Atlantis wrote:
>
> On 7 Nov 1996 18:39:54 GMT, [e-mail] (Chimera) wrote:
>
> >What's the word on the Thornton videos?  Are they helpful for advanced
> >techniques and chock full o' useable info?
> >
> >Also, anybody using Fractal Detailer, any good?
>
>         I have the Model Design and Suface Tech tapes and they've
> given me some good tips.

I've just got both as well and although there was an awful lot of stuff
I already knew I picked up a few very good tips. Ron Thornton comes
across as quite an amiable bloke and it was  actually nice to watch one
of the masters at work and realise that I'd been doing most of it right
all along! They're a pleasure to watch.

I'd recommend them as well worth watching although if you want a tape of
tips you may be better off getting the in-focus tapes by Mark Thompson
from Fusion Films.

Infact buy them all. You can never get too much help.

Paddy

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James L. Arthurs/Image Shoppe wrote:

> R >Is it LightWave.
>
>     I'd bet dollars to donuts it's mostly a MAC hideout with Electric
> Image and AE running the show, judging from the folks named in the end
> credits...

how many dollars do I get . . .
nope you are all wrong. There are a bunch of SGI machine here at
Turner.

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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
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> Does anyone know where I can download the opengl driver for win95??

www.microsoft.com

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Yes he "stole" basic. DOS is a 16 bit CPM. The original Windows appeared
around the same time as the MAC. It sucked. (I know I used it for twenty
whole seconds.) Explorer is a bloody nice piece of software though.

The one thing Billy Boy does better than anybody is marketing and signing
agreements. His agreement with IBM on DOS left him the ability to license
the software to other manufacturers. BASIC was a language before Gates
brought it to the masses but it existed on mainframes that few people had
access to. Explorer is free so a very easy piece of software to get and
use. So after gates' agreements and marketing, these pieces of software
make them synonymous (sp?) with Microsoft. Mention BASIC, people think of
Microsoft. Billy may not be an innovator but he is a marketing genius.

--
Brad Bowman
Digital Artist
http://members.aol.com/bmocgraph

Chris Golchert <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<5685bc$[e-mail]>...
>
> I'm not a computer history major, but..what was BG/MS's last original
> idea?
>
> Explorer?   Netscape?
> Windows?    Mac and Amiga ten years earlier
> Basic?      Didn't he steal that too? (I might be thinking of MS DOS)
> MSNBC       his attempt at CNN
>
>
>
>

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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
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>   Not that I'm disagreeing or anything, but how the hell is anyone going
> to know if his work is being done on a student version or a full version?

They aren't unless someone actually calls NewTek to find out. But really
though it isn't a big deal just to upgrade to the commercial license if
one plans to use their software for commercial purposes. If one isn't
using it for commercial purposes then there probably isn't any harm in
continuing to use an educational version. Any time your work is in the
public eye it is probably a good idea to be using legally licensed
copies of the software. I'm not sure about NewTek but with Autodesk
software you can usually save anywhere from 15-20% of what it would have
cost you to purchase a commercial license.

A simple thing to clear this thread up would be for someone from NewTek
to actually tell us what their licensing policies are.

Jeff

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From: Morten Steen <[e-mail]>
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>LWave 5.0 for WinNT, I'm looking for dealer in Europe,

>can anybody help me?

I see you live in Sweden...Try contacting FAMO in Oslo, Norway
(http://www.famo.no) if you can't find any dealer in Sweden.

--
Morten Merrill Steen
Freelance 3D Animator
IRC: *Stubing*
*Amiga 4000/040 - 18MB - 1.62GB - Picasso II - AmigaOS & MacOS 7.5.3*
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>   Does anyone know where or If I can get a workable demo of LW?

Unfortunately there's no Lightwave demo - I think Newtek rely on the
folks in this newsgroup to sell Lightwave for them ; )

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Ben Cannon <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> Seriously, PC card makers simply lie about their performance.
> show med a single PCI 3D card that meets or exceeds it's claimed
specifications....

when you show me an SGI that meets or exceeds its specifications...:}

> Wheras the current PC/DEC hardware is at it's limits, and you'll have to
upgrade
> it to take advantage of the same (ok, similar :) software.

The DEC Alpha line isn't even close to its design spec limits...it will
more than double in speed again next year...



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Ian Griffiths wrote:
>
> adi shamir wrote:
> >
> >
> > Try looking here;    http://www.silicond.demon.co.uk  to find
> > out all about Genesis.
>
> Last time I tried it it didn't work on Windows NT 4.0.  It
> wouldn't do rendered output, just the overlay.
>
> I sent email to the author about this, but got no reply.  Anyone
> know if it's been fixed yet?
>
> --

Sorry Ian,

I've been indisposed the last few weeks. I'm aware of the problem on
NT 4.0 but I think its a problem with the Diamond Stealth drivers as
other people have reported similar problems with other software.

If you dont have a diamond card then I apologise.  If it is a Genesis
problem then its a high priority problem as far as I'm concerned. I'll
have a look at it as soon as I get back.

spike

[e-mail]   (Note: My real name is not Adi - hes the owner
                         of the cafe. My name is not Stevedude either
                         - thats all I could register with hotmail, my
                         name is Steve, but my friends call me Spike)

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From: [e-mail] (Derek Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Need info on Toronto Amiga Show
Date: 12 Nov 1996 03:36:15 -0500
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I was wondering if anyone out there knows when the World of Amiga is
taking place at the international center (in Toronto, Ontario, CANADA).

Any information would be helpful.

Derek<<<<<

--
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Toronto, Ontario  |--------------------------------------------------------
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I need to create a scene where many groups of objects rotate their
heading- each object around it's own axis -  to always face the camera.

I have included an attachment of a scene with ONE group of objects- I
need to do the same thing with 50 groups. I tried using IK with null
objects, but it was shifting my objects all over the place, and only
worked on one object, not all 5.

What can I do???

Rosie

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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 13:44:34 -0800
From: PAddy <[e-mail]>
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Reinhard Horstmann wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> has someone the idea how I can  make the surface of frosted glass.
>
> Thanks
>
> Reinhard

Try a micro fractal bump bumpmap.A VERY MICRO fractal bump bummap. With a small value.

And set shininess to NONE, or what ever its called. Isn't it funny how you can use
something everyday and not be able to remember what its called. Funny that :-\

And a pretty low specularity. About 20 or so. Maybe lower.

Roger ... er ... I mean Paddy.

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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> HEY! anyone out there know how to use metanurbs in lightwave 5.0?
> please email me if you do. I don't even know how to make a new
> metanurb object!

I'm sorry to sound funny but since Metanurbs was one of the big upgrade features of LW 5
I expect you'll probably find something in the manuals that you got when you bought
Lightwave. Provided you can read and aren't dyslexic you'll find them just that little
bit useful.

(If you're a pirate then as well as being a thief by stealing from Newtek, you're also
potentially stealing from myself and other legal Lightwave users and that really pisses
me off. If you are a pirate then bugger off out of our news group. You aren't welcome
here. Don't forget that we now have your email address.)

Then again, if you're not a pirate just read the manual. If I was at home I'd have my
manuals and be able to tell you what page to look on. But I'm not so I can't.
If you're at college ... oops. Sorry.

Paddy.

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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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> Actually, a guy I work with has a good friend up at ILM, and gave us
> all the scoop on what's being done with what up there.
>
> Basically, every artist working up there on it can use whatever package
> they want.  Since John Knoll likes and uses EI, EI will get some screen
> time.  Renderman will probably be used more than than anything else
> however.

My guess(no hard evidence) will be that EIAS will be used for some of
the space scenes since the EIAS Renderer is very capable of handling it
and doing it fast. I think stuff like Jabba and digital monsters and
such will most definitly be done in Renderman since it handles
displacement maps beautifully as well as having the freedom with your
shaders for creating great skin.

Jeff

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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
Subject: Bones Tutorial
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Hey, can anyone recommend a good bones tutorial. All the ones I've seen
so far are pretty lame, showing only the simplest of bone skeletons. How
about a tutorial showing how to correctly bone a sharacter which has arms
legs and fingers? The manual, despite that this is the best LW manual
yet, has no definitive tutorial on bones and their use.

Many thanks

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From: flogic@198.59.115.2 (Phillip Minke)
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>
>
>
> First off, the OS won't be holding back the rendering. True, the OS isn't
> fully native, but most of it (and the chuunks that are especially
> important & are used the most) have already been ported. And the rendering
> doesn't depend heavily on OS functions.
>
> Second, the PowerPC is a better chip at most things.
>
> Third, regardless of the Mac OS and PowerPC and any speculation, we're
> just going to have to wait until LightWave is released for the Mac and
> see. It's supposed to be out sometime this month, and I plan on buying it
> for my PowerMac 8500 :)
>
> Oh...and for a Fourth thing, if you want to talk 500mhz chips...check out
> http://www.exp.com/
> .
Newtek is famous for pushing back release dates so don't count on it.



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+-- Tim Lewis <[e-mail]> (Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:23:46 -0500):
| Anyone having problems with the typeface used in modeler for the
| buttons? I'am using LW 5.0 on PC with WIN95. Layout is fine [...]

What screen resolution?  At 640x480 Modeler picks a smaller font to
make all the buttons fit on the screen.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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Wicked wrote:
>
> I am trying to figure out what is a better investment for rendering and
> modeling.
> Can any of you guys tell me what you would think would be a better
> investment?
>
> Alpha 500mhz or Pentium pro w/2 200 chips or even 4 for that matter..
>
> Pro's and Con's for both system would be great...
> I recommend the Alpha.  Carrera was showing a 500Mhz system at VTexpo for
$5000. That is hard to beat.

Pros (alpha)
The fastest rendering on the planet.
The best price/performance ratio.
Uses of the shelf peripherals, memory, harddrives etc.
Upgradable to faster processors when you're ready.

Cons (alpha
Market share is dominated by intel so there may be a case where a cool
program or plug-in is not avialble for Alpha.  Of course FX32 make the
point moot, so much for cons.

Pros (intel)
Price point starts lower.
Dominent market share insures avialability of programs.

Cons (intel)
Slower than alpha.
Multiple processors, while avialable, require additional memory to be
used to full advantage.
Two processor does not equate to double the performance.
Prices are high for the fast PPros right now.

--
Bryan J. Blevins                               Blevins Enterprises, Inc.
                   [e-mail]

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From: Tim Lewis <[e-mail]>
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Subject: modeler problems
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:23:46 -0500
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Anyone having problems with the typeface used in modeler for the
buttons? I'am using LW 5.0 on PC with WIN95. Layout is fine it is just
with modeler.

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From: Tom Kubat <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Render GL & LW (An explantion of RenderGL)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:44:50 -0800
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Bryan J. Blevins wrote:
>
> > Has anyone been able to see the new Intergraph Render GL graphic
> > architecture ? Apparently, it can increase rendering speed by up to 50
> > times!!!
>
> At SIGGRAPH, I and others who were setting up exhibits, got a close look
> at Intergraph's RenderGL.  It was made clear to all that what we were
> seeing was an early pre-beta example of RenderGL.  Despite some of the
> sleazy tactics and hype Intergraph's marketing types have been using in
> their ads, the tech guys I was able to talk with at length are great guys
> who want to develope breakthrough tools that we can all use.
>
> Now let me get on with what renderGL is, or better yet what it is going
> to be.
>
> RenderGL is a programmers API that will let programs like LightWave send
> selectable rendering functions to the OpenGL hardware in your system for
> accelerated rendering.  For instance; functions like phong shading or
> textures can be sent to the hardware, and LightWave can then add it's own
> rendering operations to them.  Advantages are that the OpenGL hardware
> can preform rendering faster than the CPU, and frees up the CPU to do
> other, software, specific rendering tasks.
>
> As a proof of concept, intergraph showed us a program that would load
> LightWave scenes and objects and render them using the system's OpenGL
> hardware.  The results were amazing!  One scene they loaded was the
> mustang airplane (on the LW cd) coming in for a landing.   You could
> scrub through the animation in real-time with shading and
> texture-mapping.  When you released the mouse button from the scrubbing
> bar the full scene was rendered (with shadows, refections and fractal
> noise) at 1152x864 in 5 SECONDS!  That is not a typo. 5, one, two, three,
> four, FIVE seconds. AWESOME!
>
> Note: Some people who have seen Intergraphs example program, mistakingly
> assume that it is what RenderGL is.  No, RenderGL is what the example
> program is using to render the scene.
>
> In the future, LightWave will be able to use RenderGL to accelerate
> rendering.  That is good news.
>
> Even better news is that you don't have to own an Intergraph GL card to
> use RenderGL.  The intergraph folks I talked to stressed, multiple times,
> that RenderGL will work with anyone's OpenGL card.
>
> No word was given to how much RenderGL will cost because it is not close
> to being ready.  More rendering functions were yet to be implemented.
> Intergraph was just giving some of us render-hounds a glowing glimps of
> the future.
>
> --
> Bryan J. Blevins                               Blevins Enterprises, Inc.
>                    [e-mail]


Bryan,
Thanks for the explanation.  It is much clearer now.  I saw the mustang
example at the Newtek party (at VT Expo) last week.  It is awsome but I
noticed the rendering time took almost twice as long if you had shadows
turned on.  10 seconds is still not a really long time for
thumb-twiddling though :)

One thing I was confused about (and in the confusion of the party,
didn't have a chance to find out.)  I was under the impression that what
rendered (in 5-10 seconds) was not the whole scene but just the frame
you stop on when you finish "scrubbing".  Incidentally, the demo they
had set up could automatically save that rendered frame to disk as a
bitmapped file (several formats to choose from.)

It looked pretty cool!  Like, when it is real-time it is the ultimate of
Open GL with full shadows and surface maps.

Tom Kubat
VIP, Inc.

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From: "Mark Lazenby" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: PLease explain  what OpenGL means?
Date: 12 Nov 96 13:13:21 GMT
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OpenGL is literally Open Graphics Library, This is implimented as standard
on Windows NT from Versions 3.51 upwards, and on Windows 95 from version
950b upwards.

Lightwave 5 utilises these libraries, which are essentially a series of
function calls to standard drawing routines, routines that "Should" produce
the same results on any system that supports OpenGL.

An OpenGL plugin was available for earlier versions of Lightwave called **
Fori's Powerview **, which gave a shaded preview within the modeller.

If you are running Lightwave 5 on Windows 95, but the shaded previews do
not seem to work, you need to copy two libraries to your Windows System
Directory, these are;

    GLU32.DLL    &    OPENGL32.DLL

Its a simple as that.

The mystery is why these were not included in Windows 95 from the start,
NT3.51 is an earlier product which featured them.

Marl

P.S. Incidentally, the "Open" part refers to the fact that the system is
"Open architecture" and available for anyone to utilise.



[e-mail] wrote in article <569dha$[e-mail]>...
> Could someone please explain to me what the term OpenGL means?  I am
> new to commercial graphics programs but I have some expereience with
> POVray.  Using LW5.0c.  Thanks in Advance.
>
> Roy Gardner
>
>

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From: Lorena Montana <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Some Lightwave Sweden-stylee..
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:46:37 +0100
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If yo are interested in watching what others websites,try mine at
http://www.pir.se/studt/index.html I have some avi's and stills for your
pleasure.

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From: [e-mail] (William Longworth)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium or 3dxpression....or maybe 3dfx.
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On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:31:58 GMT, "M.Lavery" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>William Longworth <[e-mail]> wrote in article
><561pf4$[e-mail]>...

>> Expect to need 8 megs of display ram if you want to work in high
>> resolutions like 1024 x 768.
>>
>
>Very strange!, have I got some sort of super 2mb WRAM on my Matrox
>Milleniume then?.
>Because I can work in 1024x768 in 16bit, with no problems, and if I needed
>true colour 24bit, or even 32bit, I only need to add another 2mb WRAM.
>
>--
>Malcolm Lavery
>VISIBLE HORIZON GRAPHICS
>[e-mail]
>http://www.pixelfx.demon.co.uk
>

I'm talking about needing additional display RAM for buffering
accelerated shaded high-res, high poly count displays in 3DS MAX with
a card like the Millenium.

You are talking about standard 2D windows acceleration for programs
like Photoshop or Painter.

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From: Steve Axtell <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Segment Memory
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Could someone talk about what setting to use on Segment memory, and how
to determine if I should change it from scene to scene?

Thanks.

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From: [e-mail] (Peter)
Subject: Re: LWave 5.0 for WinNT, I'm looking for dealer in Europe
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Endre BEDA <[e-mail]> wrote:

>LWave 5.0 for WinNT, I'm looking for dealer in Europe,

>can anybody help me?

>Thanks Endre

36-11-841736 vagy 06-20-429660
Nautilus Studio Kft.

Allunk rendelkezesere

Vitray Peter



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From: "Evan Ruff" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WTB: Lightwave FX Kit
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All in the heading:
Looking for the Lightwave FX Kit.

--
Evan Ruff - CEO Digital Genie
http://www.geniestudio.com

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From: Kevin Bruce Freeman <[e-mail]>
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    I have a PC PAR NTSC for sale.  It has the decimator chip and has
barely been used...it has actually been sitting in the box for a month
and is ready to go.  Email or call me if interested.
    Kevin
    [phone]
    [e-mail]


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From: Scott McDaniel <[e-mail]>
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Scott McDaniel wrote:
>
>
> Jeez, ask a simple question..
>
> Over the past year the magazine _Interactivity_ has done reviews of most
> major and minor 3D apps.


 If whoever is interested wants more info you can
> E-mail me.
>

Man talk about a can of worms! That last sentence has brought me a plethora of
E-mails with questions I could never answer.

What I meant to say was "If the original poster wants the address for
Interactivity magazine they should E-mail me."

The first point I gotta clear up is the fact that I DO NOT work for
Interactivity. Many assumed from my address
([e-mail]) that I was somehow affiliated with that
fine periodical. So, no, I can not get you a subscription; and certainly not a
free one (You know who you are).

Secondly, and I blame my poorly worded post for this, I am not a UNIX or SGI
guru. I use an SGI at work but that's about the extent of my expertise. We have
MIS guys for when I get the ever popular "PANIC" message.

Thirdly I began trying to E-mail everyone who mailed me (To avoid this
embarrassing post!) but kept getting deamon responses for failure. So, sorry if
you didn't get a response in E-mail from me.

Okay the the E-mail address for Interactivity is   [e-mail]
FAX [phone]

Gord I hope you find this...


Scott

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From: [e-mail] (Paradigm Productions - Charles Gaushell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Collision Detection - need plugin
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Does anyone know of a Lightwave plugin that has collision detection?

Thanks,


Charles Gaushell
Paradigm Productions
Game Development * 3D Computer Graphics * Design
P.O. Box 770188
Memphis, Tennessee 38177-0188
901-685-7703
Email:        [e-mail]
Web Site:  http://www.2dimes.com


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I get similar font irregularities in both the modeler and layout.  It
has happened to me on different occasions.  I think it ws because of
some other pieces of software that I had installed because each time I
rebboted the machine the fonts went back to normal.  I wish I knew
exactly what was causing the change, though.

Keith Frank

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From: [e-mail] (Phil)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Gregory Seid <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Kenneth A. Carter wrote:
>> > Beside, you have to be nuts to try to do high-end 3D on a Mac... The
>> > hardware is under powered, the OS is clunky, shaky.
>>
>> Wow, we had better inform the amateurs at ILM about this. Their
>> currently using EI on for a little film series called Star Wars.
>
>Don't get me wrong; I like Mac's and I really like EI, but:
>        Back That Statement Up.

I dunno, I went to some IMAX Star Wars thingy where they showed
a buttload of new Star Wars scenes.. The space fight scenes look
incredible, but the scenes where they added in some creatures, and
where a storm trooper is riding a big lizard thing looked cheesey as hell,
and completely bad.

I think someone SHOULD inform the amateurs at ILM, imho.

Phil

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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On 06-Nov-96 09:55:16, Melvyn Garland ([e-mail]) in
comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Can`t save  avi. files> said:
>Please can somebody help me to save avi. scenes.  I have tried everything
>I can think of.  Once I have specified where to save a scence it renders
>ok but then I can not find it.  If I save a scence under HIIP-AVI32 I get
>a message:-

>Error starting program

>The AVIFIL32.DLL file is linked to missing export NTDLL.DLL:memmove

>Could this be the problem????

>I would appreciate any ideas please


>TA


>[e-mail]

Are you using LW 4.0 Intel?  Have you applied the patches posted on our
FTP site?  Been awhile since I've seen this, but it rings a bell for being
an unpatched 4.0 installation.  Please also not the following info if
using Win 95:


After you have installed Lightwave under Windows 95, you should:

1)  Go to the Settings option on the Windows "Start" menu,

2)  Select the Control Panel,

3)  Select Add/Remove Programs,

4)  Select Windows Setup,

5)  Select and remove the Multimedia group.

6)  Exit and restart Windows.

7)  Repeat 1-4 and re-add the multimedia group.

8)  Exit and restart Windows again.

9)  Delete the file NewTek\Programs\LW.CFG.

10) Run LightWave, add all Plugins from the NewTek\Plugins\Layout
directory,
including HIIPAVI16.P, HIIPAVI32.P, and NT_AVI.P.

11) Exit and restart LightWave.

After this, the plugins, including the HIIP AVI and NT_AVI savers, should
be
available and working.

There is a bug in the MicroSoft AVI codecs such that you can appear to
have
rendered a blank AVI.  If you load the file in MediaPlayer and scrub the
AVI
you will find that, while blank sections may have been appended to the
beginning and the end of the AVI, the AVI has actually rendered
successfully.

Windows 95 users who wish to use the PowerView OpenGL plugin need to get
the
Windows 95 OpenGL.DLL.  The file is available on Compuserve, Go GraphDev,
search by the filename OPENGL95.ZIP, or by "Windows 95".  The file may be
available at other locations on the Net as well.


When saving an AVI, you must type in a complete filename in the filename
requester, including the extension ".avi", or no file will be saved.

We do have a known bug in the handling of the scene file parameter for the
animation type, which is what you may also be  experiencing.  If you save
a scene file with an animation type selected, when you reload the scene
and try to render, LightWave will crash.  The workaround is to edit the
scene file in a text editor.  Look for the line:

AnimationType 4

(the number will vary depending on what you selected for type) and either
remove the line or change the number to 0.

Another workaround is never to save the scene with an animation type
selected; always wait and select that at render time.

The product team has reported that this is fixed in 5.0.



======================================================================
Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
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Subject: Re: Batch converting on the PC?
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I've posted this before, but please try alchemy from handmade software.
Amazing program.

--
Brad Bowman
Digital Artist
http://members.aol.com/bmocgraph

M.Lavery <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<01bbd01b$d299a680$[e-mail]>...
> Kurt Røsand <[e-mail]> wrote in article <5625fv$[e-mail]>...
> > Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > >Geoff Suttor wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ROMERO wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Try using DeBabelizer.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> For the PC? I don't think so.
> > >> If it is then PLEASE let us all know. :)
> > >>
> > >For batch processing I know it is a bit expensive to use for mere
batch
> > >processing, but I hear Photoshop 4.0 is pretty hot about this...
> > Only it can't read 24 bit .iff's :(
>
> Erm!, dont be daft!. ;)
>
> You mean Paint shop 4.1 can not read 24bit iff`s.
> --
> Malcolm Lavery
> VISIBLE HORIZON GRAPHICS
> [e-mail]
> http://www.pixelfx.demon.co.uk
>

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From: [e-mail] (Chris Golchert)
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I'm not a computer history major, but..what was BG/MS's last original
idea?

Explorer?   Netscape?
Windows?    Mac and Amiga ten years earlier
Basic?      Didn't he steal that too? (I might be thinking of MS DOS)
MSNBC       his attempt at CNN




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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
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On 08 Nov 96 12:43:10 +0100, [e-mail] (Steen Tøttrup) wrote:
>I've been working on a very detailed wheel for a bike,
>and then suddently I got this error message about
>internal buffers not big enough when I try to substract
>using boolean?!?! what is it? can't seem to find it in
>the manual..

This is a dongle problem.  For some reason, Modeler cannot find the
hardware key and is making up this silly error message.  Make sure
it's well seated and try reinstalling the software and drivers if
necessary.  If it doesn't improve, send your key to NewTek for
reprogramming.
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ANNOUCE: Decimate polygon reduction plugin ported to Intel  FREE!
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Matthew Sorrels wrote:
>
> While I may not be able to spell or type a sentence I have been in a
> make/port plugin mood lately.  Along with the DEM plugin work I've done,
> I've ported Marvin Landis's amazing polygon reduction plugin to Windows
> NT.  It hasn't got a lot of testing but it seems to work fine and can
> really kill polygon's.  You can find the NT version at:
>
> ftp://ftp.pontari.com/pub/pontari/decimate.zip


This is incorrect, it should be:

ftp://ftp.pontari.com/pub/pontari/lightwave/decimate.zip

Paul

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From: Geoff Suttor <[e-mail]>
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Jon Carroll wrote:

> EVERYONE who is still using Lightwave on the Amiga, and wants to see new
> versions of it, whether it be PPC or 68k, please drop a note to
> Brad Peebler
> Production Manager, NewTek
> [e-mail]
>
> -Jon Carroll

Better still, those PC Lightwave users who wish to use more powerful
Amigas AGAIN, tell Newtek. If the power is there on an Amiga type OS,
when this PC of mine is out of date (approx. 6 months to a year!),
at a decent price, I'll be there. (if Lightwave is!)

Geoff Suttor
Animator.
Digital Video Productions Australia.
WK: mailto:[e-mail]
HM: mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec

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From: Geoff Suttor <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: HELP: metanurbs human head
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Lionel Low wrote:
>
> Hi, can anyone please help me. I am modeling a human head but cannot
> seem to get it right. How would you start? I have tried with a segmented
> box but ended up very very messy. Please point me in the right
> direction. Thanks!
>
> Lionel Low
> [e-mail]

A talented Lightwave modeler (Mr Tom Taylor, [e-mail]) showed me
a good way of doing it that was so simple it was scary.

The problem is starting with just a plain segmented box, you push &
pull,
freeze, then tab, push & pull again etc.etc, the mesh becomes far to
complex and you still dont have the detail in certain areas you want.
ie. the nose.
Tom suggested that I start with the usual 3 or 4 segmented cube, but
then
cut and paste smaller ones onto it (merging points to make one mesh),
starting of with a boxy shape of the head first, ie. the nose is made
of three extruded boxes in the form of a "T" shape. The ears and extra
box each side etc, and all this BEFORE even starting to muck about
with your metanurbs. Adding the BASIC detail before starting is and
has been the answer to any organic shape tried. If you wish
to see the results of his head, go to his (unfinished) site at..
http://londo.dvp.com.au/~tomt
and have a look in the film section.

Cheers,


--
Geoff Suttor
Animator.
Digital Video Productions Australia.
WK: mailto:[e-mail]
HM: mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Babylon 5 done in EI?
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<I am basing this evaluation on the image I saw in EI's ads in 3D Design
and DV. The same image was also seen on the latest B5 episode.>

Jean-Eric,

I saw those pictures tonight, and they're not a good representation of how
the shot appeared in the show. The printing in DV was very dark; on the
show, the rendering was brighter (and better).

-- Jon A. Bell

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How do I subscribe?  Does anyone have Warner's email address? Ax

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> Doesn't MAX use OpenGL?

MAX uses ita own proprietary API called Heidi. Seems most GL cards will
ship with a heidi driver.


--
Brad Bowman
Digital Artist
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Stranahan Film Screening
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When is it on schedule?
======================

It isn't, yet - "all rights are currently available".

The screening went well though, so thanks to the people who came out for
it.



_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan


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From: Tom Kubat <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: to Be Alpha or not to Be
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Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:
>
> In article <328634d2.8524576@tbsnews> [e-mail] writes:
> >From: [e-mail]
> >Subject: Re: to Be Alpha or not to Be
> >Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:34:14 GMT
>
> >One thing to keep in mind is that Pentium pro chips are very difficult
> >to get at the moment and their prices have almost doubled in the last
> >45 days.  Alphas are looking better all the time.
>
> Actually, my understanding (and experience) is that the 200s are the ones that
> are getting expensive and difficult to find.  The prices on the other chips
> are fairly stable.  I suspect that this is temporary.
>
> I still think that it makes sense to use PPro if you are not going to spend a
> fortune on a VERY fast OpenGl card.  If you need that fast OpenGl card, then
> it probably makes sense to spring for the fast Alpha as well.
>
> Now if LW comes out with multi-threading (to take advantage of dual PPros,
> then this may change a bit.  Unless the Alphas start springing extra CPUs.

Aspen Systems (Colorado) will be announcing a dual Alpha at Comdex for
release in first quarter '97.  Hurry up, Newtek, we're gonna need that
multi-threading!

Tom Kubat

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Jean-Eric Hénault wrote:
>
> > > Beside, you have to be nuts to try to do high-end 3D on a Mac... The
> > > hardware is under powered, the OS is clunky, shaky. Nothing comparable
> > > to what's availlable on NT. They have given the work to amateurs it
> > > seems... At least, LW will soon be availlable. Welcome to the civilized
> > > world...
> > >
> >
> > then they must have been nuts to nuke LA in T2...
>
> Don't know if you have noticed, but T2 was done almost 4 years ago...
> Kind of old in the CG business...
>

as has been mention (quite often) EI will get screen time in StarWars
SE.  As far as your "nuts" comment, are we to assume that you think John
Knoll is nuts?

l8r

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Jean-Eric Hénault wrote:
>
> >
> I think the tests would have to take into account the type of operation
> involved. Floating Point intensive operations are so common in
> ray-tracing. Depending on which one of the PPro or PPC is the fastest at
> FP will determine which one is the fastest at rendering. As for graphic
> architecture, I don't know what is the most powerfull between Open GL or
> Quickdraw.
 Open GL vs. QuickDraw... based on the stuff I've read it depends on
what you're doing.  OpenGL seems better for modeling, while QD3D seems
to perform better when there are several lights and/or objects
involved.  Personally, I'd like to know if it's possible to run and use
both.
>
> However, keep in mind that the operating system will also affect the
> performance. Windows NT is hard to beat. As wonderfull as the Mac is,
> it's operating system is at least 2-3 years behind in terms of R&D
> compared to NT... except for plug and play of course... ;-)

but if Apple buys Be, it'll be a whole new ballgame... but will they is
another story....

>
> But whichever of those processors is the fastest, none of these will
> match a 500 Mhz Alpha processor... ;-)

...they can dream.... :-)
>
> Jean-Eric Hénault

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Search For 3D-Studio - like performance from LW 4.0
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I am curious whether anyone out here can help me speed up the process of
using layout to put together scenes.  In 3D-Studio there is a function
called Hide Objects, and you can set the visibility speed of each
individual object (like LW 4.0)  Anyhow, what is handy in 3D-Studio is the
hiding of objects greatly speeds the rendering of a scene (for texture
tests, and so on.).

I am very interested in transfering my energies into using Lightwave
rather than 3D-Studio, so that I can take advantage of the huge host of
features.  I appreciate this newsgroup's help!



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From: [e-mail] (Dana Drury)
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    Sorry to waste your time but generally I don't need to ask
questions like this, I currently am running LW 4.0 (I've been busy so
upgrading to 5.0 was put off) on a PC, Its a P133, its fine and lovely but
I will be looking to get a new system and with the new A/BOX, the SGI O2
and the venerable Pentium Pro around (I'm not looking at mac) I was
wondering which is the best by in terms of Lightwave and everything else
for about $6-8K.
    I realise that the other 2 won't run PC software (I won't get into
Insignia Softwindows) however I have a heck of a lot of old Amiga Software
and if any system other than the PPRO is going to run lightwave "real
fast" including OPENGL or Similar previews I don't mind getting a new
version of lightwave for it.  --
    I can tell that people are going to probably say Suped PPro, if so
what should be included?

                    Thanks for your help!

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>I'd like to get back on the list.  COuld someone send me Dave Warner's
>email to get hooked up again.  Thanks.  Ax

Send e-mail to: [e-mail]

In the body of the message, include:

subscribe lightwave
end

That's it.  It'll be great seeing you on the list again!  :)

Dan

--
Daniel J. McCoy - [e-mail] or [e-mail]
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In article <56b075$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Drury) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Dana Drury)
>Subject: New System For LW? Which One
>Date: 12 Nov 1996 23:11:33 GMT


>        Sorry to waste your time but generally I don't need to ask
>questions like this, I currently am running LW 4.0 (I've been busy so
>upgrading to 5.0 was put off) on a PC, Its a P133, its fine and lovely but
>I will be looking to get a new system and with the new A/BOX, the SGI O2
>and the venerable Pentium Pro around (I'm not looking at mac) I was
>wondering which is the best by in terms of Lightwave and everything else
>for about $6-8K.
>        I realise that the other 2 won't run PC software (I won't get into
>Insignia Softwindows) however I have a heck of a lot of old Amiga Software
>and if any system other than the PPRO is going to run lightwave "real
>fast" including OPENGL or Similar previews I don't mind getting a new
>version of lightwave for it.  --
>        I can tell that people are going to probably say Suped PPro, if so
>what should be included?

>                                        Thanks for your help!

Here is a quick and superficial thumbnail.  A good case could be made for any
of these systems.  It really depends on your individual needs.

PPro/Intel = Best overall general purpose for LW.  Most amount of plugins etc.
Fast, but the Alpha and R10000 beat it and the new PowerPC may edge it out
(slightly) as well.  A very good value if you don't want to spend as much as
the Alpha requires.  Excellent upgrade path from your P133 ( you could
simply swap the motherboard - and possibly the case if cooling is inadequate).
 If you add a fast and expensive OpenGL card the value advantage starts to tip
toward the Alpha. Platform is weak in other graphic software categories (like
compositing) but that is changing.

Alpha = Best for speed which is important for rendering and for scene
development.  Arguably has the best horsepower to price ratio.  Can easily pay
for itself in a moderately high production environment.  FX-32 helps the
software compatibility issue, but doesn't solve it.  Fair amount of plugins
available.

Amiga = Not keeping up with speed.  No OpenGL.  Hard to reccomend unless you
have some other need the Amiga fulfills.

SGI = LW 5.0 not yet available.  Other software fairly expensive.  Very
limited plugin availability.  Fast, but closer to the PPro than to the Alpha.
R10000 gets closer to the Alpha, but not quite.  Offers some of the best
graphics software available - if you can afford it.  Offers the "prestige"
factor that may impress some clients.

Mac = Could be a great choice if you get the latest PowerPC which should be a
bit faster than a PPro-200.  But LW not yet released and I don't know of even
one plugin that is yet available (stands to reason).  However, there are a ton
of graphic programs of high quality for this platform.
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<My guess(no hard evidence) will be that EIAS will be used for some of
the space scenes since the EIAS Renderer is very capable of handling it
and doing it fast. I think stuff like Jabba and digital monsters and
such will most definitly be done in Renderman since it handles
displacement maps beautifully as well as having the freedom with your
shaders for creating great skin.>

Jeff,

All of the "Star Wars" space shots were done in ElectricImage with the
native renderer, from what I've been told. I don't believe there are any
SGI space shots in the shows. However, many of the creature and Jabba
shots (which have prompted criticism from some who've seen them) are
apparently being re-done in Softimage and Renderman (from ElectricImage).

-- Jon A. Bell

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <01bbd09e$c7156960$[e-mail]> "Brad Bowman" <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: "Brad Bowman" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Batch converting on the PC?
>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:38:43 GMT

>I've posted this before, but please try alchemy from handmade software.
>Amazing program.

>--
>Brad Bowman

I agree.  I purchased the full version of this a few years back when nobody
supported 24 bit .iffs on the PC.  But only consider it if you like using a
command prompt.  It is not difficult, but some people are literally hooked on
GUIs.  The simple command prompt can actually be much more efficient.


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From: "Ahmed Alireza" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Painterly Effects?
Organization: 3Moon Graphics
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I searched the entire LW5 CD for Painterly Effects, where is it?

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From: [e-mail] (Gordon Tomlinson)
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Hi Colin

Hows things hanging in Sunny old Spain.

Thanks for the tape of THHGTTG, I have plenty of disk space I think
but theres is a Directory checksum error on the tape, have tried
serval things but it still fails.  ( whats on it then as I get nothing
out of it???)

Well things are hectic at the moment. Had a patch upgrade for our onyx
the other day and lost do days.. One of those things the readme does
not tell you about...  most annoying to say the least.


got to rush another boring demo.


Gordon.


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From: Aaron Estrada <[e-mail]>
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Geoff Suttor wrote:

>
> Ohhhhh, YES!! thats great news. So now I'll have,
> Photoshop 4.0, Debab, After Effects and Lightwave.
> All running on my PC.
> Wooo..hooo!! I've died and gone the CGI heaven. :)
>
> Geoff Suttor
> Animator.

I was a Beta Tester on PS 4.0, and you know what? It has a batch feature
that works great as well as 24 bit IFF support. You might just be able
to save your money on getting Debab, because PS 4.0 does almost
everything it can do just fine. (it doesn't support as many file
formats, but they're probably formats you'll never need anyway)

-Aaron
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From: Pavel Osharin <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE:PLease explain what Open GL means?
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 OpenGL is standart on graphic output. It consist of commands which
draw geometric figures such as solid poligon, line, etc. Usual card
cannot understand those commands so they let to processor do it.
I.e. if you want to draw solid triangle, and you have no OpenGL card,
you processor must to think what points must be filled in this
triangle particulary.
 And in clever card case you processor think about something else, and you
card thinks itself how to draw you triangle. It let you work with not
wireframes, but with real boxes, spheres, toroids, etc.
 I.e. OpenGL card contains it's own proseccor to perform that operation.

P.S. I'm not professional programmer (I'm student of Moscow Institute of
Electronic Techiques) so sorry for not very precisely explaining...

Pavel Osharin
3D Animator
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From: cj <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Amiga Par and HD 4 sale
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:35:54 -0600
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says it all in the title:

very new Par with box and manuals and latest software.
500 meg HD.

works great

700.00 obo

thanx
josh
312-988-9056

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From: [e-mail] (Paul Muns)
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Subject: Re: Wacom problem..yes me too
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 04:54:08 GMT
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Hi Michael,

There is a WACOM beta site at: www.wacom.com

I am using their beta version 2.4.3 in NT 4.0 on a  6x8 tablet and
have not had any problems...yet.  I just got the program LW5  this
week and have just had a few hours to play with it.  I did find an
Options area that does allow for a setting to "Tablet" rather than
Mouse. This helped a lot, as the tablet was "skating" the points
continuously across the screen in the direction initiated.  It was
impossible to control until I found this switch.  The GlidePoint mouse
I am using seems to work normally with this setting.  That's all I
know at this brief encounter with LW5 for now...maybe it will help.

-Paul

On Thu, 07 Nov 1996 21:22:51 -0800, Michael Levine
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>> >I am using a Wacom drwaing tablet (4x5), and at random
>> >times for no apparent reason, the pointer will disappear in layout.
>> >Works fine in Modeler, sometimes it works in Layout, sometimes
>> >it doesn't.
>> >
>> >Anyone else have this problem?
>
>> I too have a Wacom tablet and experienced what you speak of.  However I don't
>> think it has anything to do with your video card, it's just a weird bug.  You
>> probably notice it happening especially during right button clicks (like a Y
>> axis move).  The thing that has helped me to avoid the disappearing cursor is
>> to slow down with those right button clicks/movements.  Let Lightwave catch up
>> to your movements and you will find better success.
>
>Very Good. I am glad other people have experienced this problem as well.


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From: Curt Gandy <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Johnny Quest ?
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James L. Arthurs/Image Shoppe wrote:
>
> R >Hi, I was wondeering if anbody here know wich program is used for the
> R >3 sequences inn Johnny Quest ?.. currently showing on Cartoon Network.
> R >Is it LightWave.
>
>     I'd bet dollars to donuts it's mostly a MAC hideout with Electric
> Image and AE running the show, judging from the folks named in the end
> credits...
>
> Jim Arthurs
> IMAGE SHOPPE
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According to Nov. 1996 Digital Magic magazine, (an offshoot of Computer
Graphics World) the 3D CG animation sequences are done by Buzz FX. They
are using Softimage, Mental Ray and Eddie using keyframe techniques for
tweaking characters but the main characters are animated by a service
bureau called The House of Moves (Venice, CA) using Oxford Metrics Vicon
motion capture system. Check out the article because it highlights other
TV shows using CG characters and debates keyframing vs motion capture.

Curt Gandy
World In Motion Productions
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Andy Stiff)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Joe Stratmann) wrote:
>I've been playing around with some space shots and the star background
>looks "dead".  I've used random stars as well as actual stars.  But the
>stars are all the same size and just seem to have no life to them.
>
>Can anyone offer some tips on how to make this look better?
>
>Thanks
>
>Joe
There is a nice starfield object in the space of a sphere at Avalon (in 3DS or
ASC format I think). It is a 'real' star field, ie. you can pick out the
correct constellations etc. The stars are different sizes and with a nice
texture map to give the stars a bit of color it looks great.

Andy

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> Steve Axtell <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Steve Axtell <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Segment Memory
>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:11:10 -0800

>Could someone talk about what setting to use on Segment memory, and how
>to determine if I should change it from scene to scene?

>Thanks.

Rendering is generally faster if you can render your image in one segment.
This is especially true if you are using motion blur and/or field rendering
(because LW has to "move" the objects to different positions for each frame
and this can add up - especially if the objects are numerous and large).  So
it is generally desirable to try to use one segment.

H * W * 24 = Segment Size to get one segment.

640 * 480 * 24 = 7372800

If you enter 7372799, you will get two segments.  Enter 7372800 and you will
get one.

All the calculations, however, won't tell you what to use for any particular
scene.  Variables such as the number and complexity of objects, number and
size of image maps,  shadow mapping and no doubt some other factors make
calculating the optimal setting somewhat difficult.  What you need to do is do
a test render and observe if the hard drive spends a significant (judgement
and experience) amount of time swapping to disk.  If it does, you will almost
surely speed up rendering by using a smaller segment size and therefore more
segments.  Doing this will minimize the amount of disk swapping since there is
a smaller working set being used.





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James L. Arthurs/Image Shoppe ([e-mail]) wrote:

: R >Hi, I was wondeering if anbody here know wich program is used for the
: R >3 sequences inn Johnny Quest ?.. currently showing on Cartoon Network.
: R >Is it LightWave.

:     I'd bet dollars to donuts it's mostly a MAC hideout with Electric
: Image and AE running the show, judging from the folks named in the end
: credits...

Nuh uhhhh..... (at least not the first few episodes).

j


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> Stephen <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Stephen <[e-mail]>
>Subject: looping fractal bump displacement map
>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:50:09 -0700

>Any ideas on how to make a fractal bump displacement map loopable?  Let's say
>the
>map's size is 1m x 1m x 1m and has a velocity at .1m x .1m x .1m; does anyone
>know if it
>the fractal pattern can be set to repeat?

>The only workaround I can think of is to bring the amplitude envelope to 0 while
>morphing into a object with the displacement manually put on it both at the
>beginning
>and end of the animation (this will be very time consuming to model -can you say
>magnet
>tool over and over?!!).

I have taken the "fractlref.iff" image that came with LW and made a seemless
version of it in Photoshop (Filter/Other/Offset - on the horizontal and
vertical and then manually blend the seems).  Set a velocity and away you go.



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QV, my render display plug-in for Windows LW, now has a Copy button that
puts the image onto the clipboard.  This is the short-term solution for
people who asked me whether the display could be made to persist while
they went back to work in Layout.

I've also just made available a standalone program for converting wire-
frame preview files into AVIs.  A similar program that made Amiga ANIMs
has been around for a while but hasn't been on my site until now.

For both of these and other things, see

   http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew/getstuff.html   OR
   ftp://ftp.digex.net/pub/access/erniew

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From: [e-mail] (Keith Matz)
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Howdy...
I am in the position of trying to set up a small Lightwave department
at work and am stuck with which system to recommend. It's either 3
dual pentium 200 workstations with 3 more render slaves, or 3 alpha
500 stations with 1 extra slave.

Now, it seems that with the alphas, we'll reap a much greater
real-time reward, but I'm really unsure of the whole fx!32 emulation
thing. We'll also be running photoshop, and my (limited) experience on
the alpha at the vtu expo was that it absolutely choked the alpha!

If anyone can add some insight or has been in a similar situation,
your advice would be much appreciated!

                KeithM


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Driskell)
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On Wed, 13 Nov 1996 00:13:20 GMT, [e-mail] (Paradigm Productions - Charles Gaushell) wrote:

>Does anyone know of a Lightwave plugin that has collision detection?
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Charles Gaushell
>Paradigm Productions
>Game Development * 3D Computer Graphics * Design
>P.O. Box 770188
>Memphis, Tennessee 38177-0188
>901-685-7703
>Email:        [e-mail]
>Web Site:  http://www.2dimes.com
>
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Look up "Dynamic Realities"... er..........brb..........there it is!
http://www.dynamic-realities.com
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      Bob Driskell@ http://www.driskell.interworld.net
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Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 08:45:38 GMT
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Could someone please explain to me what the term OpenGL means?  I am
new to commercial graphics programs but I have some expereience with
POVray.  Using LW5.0c.  Thanks in Advance.

Roy Gardner


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From: Aaron Estrada <[e-mail]>
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Subject: New Tutorial On Rotoscoping.
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:51:52 +0000
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What are digital roto-mattes? What is rotoscoping for that matter? If
you want to know, check out the new Rotoscoping tutorial
http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/3113
There are other tutorials on visual effects related stuff.

-Aaron
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From: Aaron Estrada <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CGI heaven.
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Geoff Suttor wrote:

>
> Ohhhhh, YES!! thats great news. So now I'll have,
> Photoshop 4.0, Debab, After Effects and Lightwave.
> All running on my PC.
> Wooo..hooo!! I've died and gone the CGI heaven. :)
>
> Geoff Suttor
> Animator.

I was a Beta Tester on PS 4.0, and you know what? It has a batch feature
that works great as well as 24 bit IFF support. You might just be able
to save your money on getting Debab, because PS 4.0 does almost
everything debab can do and other things it can't even touch, like "Free
Transform". (it doesn't support as many file formats, but they're
probably formats you'll never need anyway)

-Aaron
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From: Elliot Bain <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Babylon 5 done in EI?
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:43:26 -0500
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Jean-Eric Hénault wrote:
>
> > Actually, B5's ratings have been in a more or less constant upswing.
> > They made the top 20 for all syndicated shows the past couple of
> > weeks, something the show has not done for quite some time. The show
> > has been appearing in the top 5 or so of the dramatic syndicated
> > listing as well.
> >
> As a reminder, Star Trek, TOS was not very popular either in its humble
> beginnings. And today, this is a 2 billion $ a year empire... ;-)
>
> Perhaps one day, B5 will become a cult TV show... Just like Star Trek
> ;-)
>
> Jean-Eric

Not a chance. Star Trek has a cult following because it was a series of
adventure stories, where the viewers could could put themselves into
Kirk's shoes. B5 and all the rest are just cgi'd soap operas. I'll take
the cheesy sets of the original to the cgi worlds of the pretenders.

If not for the insatiable appetite of cable and syndication, all the
current series would be history by now. Had the original Star Trek had
the advantage of more than three networks, it certainly would have had a
longer run.

--
Elliot Bain
Laurell Creative Services
614.459.4404

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From: [e-mail] (Joe Monahan)
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In article <01bbd09f$929d9940$[e-mail]>, "Brad
Bowman" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Billy may not be an innovator but he is a marketing genius.

This was sort of my original point. Gates is living proof that you can
fool most of the people most of the time. In my book, technology innovator
is a good thing - marketing genius is not. Your opionion may differ.

Joe Monahan

> --
> Brad Bowman
> Digital Artist
> http://members.aol.com/bmocgraph
>
> Chris Golchert <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> <5685bc$[e-mail]>...
> >
> > I'm not a computer history major, but..what was BG/MS's last original
> > idea?
> >
> > Explorer?   Netscape?
> > Windows?    Mac and Amiga ten years earlier
> > Basic?      Didn't he steal that too? (I might be thinking of MS DOS)
> > MSNBC       his attempt at CNN
> >
> >
> >
> >

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From: Geoff Suttor <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Dual Pentium Pro or Alpha? Help!
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Keith Matz wrote:
>
> Howdy...
> I am in the position of trying to set up a small Lightwave department
> at work and am stuck with which system to recommend. It's either 3
> dual pentium 200 workstations with 3 more render slaves, or 3 alpha
> 500 stations with 1 extra slave.
>
> Now, it seems that with the alphas, we'll reap a much greater
> real-time reward, but I'm really unsure of the whole fx!32 emulation
> thing. We'll also be running photoshop, and my (limited) experience on
> the alpha at the vtu expo was that it absolutely choked the alpha!
>
> If anyone can add some insight or has been in a similar situation,
> your advice would be much appreciated!
>
>                                 KeithM

Why not mix it up! If your going to spend the big bucks on 4 or more
alpha/ppro stations, get a a couple of ppros' for photoshop/lightwave
and get  a couple of Alpha's for lightwave only.
I think they can all sit in the renderfarm together! bar having the
same plugins for alpha & intel.

Dont forget a DPS PVR sitting in one of them! :)

Geoff Suttor
Animator.
Digital Video Productions Australia.
WK: mailto:[e-mail]
HM: mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec

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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: New free DEM surface plugin
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:01:08 -0800
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Matthew Sorrels wrote:
>
> After fixing some of the bugs in the DEMScape plugin I realized that it
> really needed some help in texture/surfacing.  So I've hacked up a nifty
> little modeler plugin that will assign surface names based on the
> average height of polygons.  What this does is lets you very quickly
> surface an imported DEM file.  I've placed both the fixed version of the
> DEMScape plugin for Intel and my new demshade plugin in a zip file at:
>
> ftp://ftp.pontari.com/pub/pontari/lightwave/dem.zip
>
> Very detailed instructions on how to use DEMScape can be found at
> http://amber.rc.arizona.edu/lw/demscape.html
>
> The new demshade plugin in is documented in a tiny(and vague) readme in
> the zip.
>
> You can see an example of an imported DEM that was shaded with five
> levels and then colored(the DEMShade plugin doesn't create surfaces,
> just assigns them to polygons). at
>
> http://www.pontari.com/pontari/lightwave
>
> Questions about the surface shader can be sent to matthews@pontari.
> Have fun.
>
> Matthew Sorrels   [e-mail], [e-mail]
> Pontari Productions  (http://www.pontari.com/pontari)

Matt,

I just started using your decimate plugin.  Great job!  Much better than
the reduce polys plug that came with modeller.  Thanks

Paul Oberlander

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Subject: Re: I want to buy a good digitizer tablet ?!?! Which one is a good one?!?!?!
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Pete Silver wrote:
>
> Harvey Dent <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> <55l7if$[e-mail]>...
> > Hello !
> >
> >
> > I would like to buy a digitizer tablet with which I can work on
> > lightwave 5.0.
> >
> > Can anybody please recommend me one, or anybody can tell me his
> > experiences with some tablets.
> >
> > I would like to do some semi-professional work with lightwave, so it
> > shouldn`t be a tooo expensive tablet.
> >
> >
> > Thanks guys in advance.
> >
> >
> > [e-mail]
> > +
> I use a Wacom A4 size tablet in LW. Excellent well recommended.
>
> Pete

I second the Wacom motion.  The pen is extremely light and has no cord.

Paul

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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Painterly Effects?
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:35:38 -0800
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Ahmed Alireza wrote:
>
> I searched the entire LW5 CD for Painterly Effects, where is it?

"Painterly Effects" is a function of PenelloLite.  It is not actually
called that, but someone in a review somewhere used the term (probably
in reference to its natural media brush effects).  I saw the full
version at VTU and they were doing some pretty cool stuff with it.

Paul Oberlander

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From: [e-mail] (Eric D. Wiesen)
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Subject: Re: New SGI O2 : how much?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:40:14 GMT
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    To be honest, I don't really understand the argument that the
advantage of O2 is some future performance level. I'm sure that some
extra performance can be gained by specifically optimizing software
for the O2 (although having to write new versions of software for a
specific machine is quite a step backwards if you ask me. And yes,
this is a rewrite of very basic code, not a simple recompile), but
other than that the argument falls flat on its face.
    In fact, I would argue the exact opposite. The whole advantage to an
NT machine is upgradeability (alright, there are several other major
advantages, but this is the one that pertains to this question). If
you've got a Pentium Pro-based machine and you need more processor
power, you can buy a new motherboard/processor and upgrade to an
Alpha, or to the next generation Intel processor when it comes out.
    More importantly, if you're using a current-generation graphics card,
say one based on the Glint 500TX chip, and another generation of
better, faster and cheaper cards comes out, you can simply swap the
card. Where's the option to swap graphics hardware on the O2? Simply
put, O2 competes reasonably well on performance (although not well on
price) with TODAY's NT machines (well, Intel-based NT machines.
Alpha's easily outperform O2). But as we all know, the PC market
changes at an astonishingly rapid rate. If anyone doubts this, think
about the 3D cards that were offered a year or even six months ago,
and think of all the new entrants and the difference in performance
and price. Now project a year from now. New technologies from 3D labs,
Dynamic Pictures, Intergraph, etc... will have easily surpassed the O2
in both performance and low price. Those of us who own NT machines now
can spend $2k or whatever the new board costs and immediately upgrade
our performance. A person who goes out and buys an O2 can't do
anything similar. What that person will have is a machine that was
intriguing at the time, but crippled because SGI cut corners and
designed it with zero-upgradeability. O2 is only attractive because it
costs less than Indigo 2's, and because people are enamored with the
idea of a $6k SGI. The reality of it, unfortunately, just doesn't add
up.



Eric D. Wiesen
Xert Computing

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[e-mail] (Matthew Sorrels) wrote:

>After fixing some of the bugs in the DEMScape plugin I realized that it
>really needed some help in texture/surfacing.  So I've hacked up a nifty
>little modeler plugin that will assign surface names based on the
>average height of polygons.  What this does is lets you very quickly
>surface an imported DEM file.  I've placed both the fixed version of the
>DEMScape plugin for Intel and my new demshade plugin in a zip file at:
>
Do you mind if I ask what bugs you found and fixed in DEMScape?

Dave Paige
[e-mail]
http://www.access.digex.net/~davep

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave 5.0 - Educational Discount - Limitations?
Date: 12 Nov 96 10:47:35 +0500
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On 12-Nov-96 04:07:14, me ([e-mail]) in
comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Re: Lightwave 5.0 - Educational
Discount - Limitations?> said:
>>I don't know about LW, but with Photoshop, you simply pay to upgrade to
>>a full  license.
>>
>>Your logic is flawed BTW.  The copy you got "commercially" while in
>>school was  discounted because the publisher was giving you special
>>consideration for  being a student.  Why should you continue to get
>>special consideration for  being a student when you are no longer a
>>student?


>Wrong.....  how am I going to continue to get "special consideration"
>for being a student, when I've already forked out the money for
>Lightwave?  I'm not talking that I should receive "special
>consideration" from here on after, just that if I've spent money to
>buy Lightwave and it was legitimately for school, and now that school
>is over, I'm not going to throw that copy away and buy a new copy of
>the same version.  I agree that I should pay full price or upgrade
>prices for the next version.

Perhaps Keith Goodman can clarify policy on the educational sales.  My
understanding from talks with sales staff at the time the educational
sales policy was instituted was that educational copies were not for
commercial use.  A student who purchases an educational copy would be able
to convert to unrestricted use at the next update by paying the regular
price for that update rather than the educational update price.  There was
to be a special educational license enclosed with ed sales packages.  I'm
not sure how much of this actually got into writing, as I've not seen the
educational sales material.


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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Screamernet II problems
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This sounds as though you do not actually have a Screamenet folder on each
of the node machines.  The folder needs to contain the LWSN.EXE file, the
LW.CFG file, the err_enu.dll.  The lw.cfg on each node needs to cite the
ContentDirectory as S:\NewTek (as an example) and the CommandDirectory
needs to be set to S:\SNetComm.  Cite the Output directory as S:\Output.

It helps if each node sees things identically.



On 06-Nov-96 06:35:19, Michael Kluge ([e-mail]-
weimar.de) in comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <Screamernet II problems>
said:
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>Please excuse my problems with the news hosts, if it's more than once
>posted ... :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>Dear Sir's and Madams from Newtek and other people with interests on
>Lightwave!

>I purchased my version from Lightwave 5.0 NT-version about 3 month ago.
>In the last weeks I modelled some
>very huge objects and Scenes and wanted to start a complete
>visualization of my project in the
>next two weeks  ( finish date 11/18/96 ).

>That's why I organized for my purpose a render farm with 12
>NT-Workstations to render the whole project.
>On last weekend I tried to start my first sequence, but it won't start
>to render over the network.

>I use ScreamerNet II with a shared Networkdrive S:\ ( which is located
>on the controller PC and is there a
>shared driectory with the substructure -SN -Temp -OUTPUT )

>On this Network drive is the Scene

>S:\SN           as command directory and source for the Scenes, Textures
>and Objects and Image Files S:\Temp    for temporary files S:\OUTPUT

>for the result files ( numbered .TGA's )

>I see after the start on the slave machines all nodes in the list of LW
>Layout ( in the right order ).

>After loading the Scenery File in the render list I started to render
>the frames, but I after the
>the message ( loading sequence ) and the renderwindow tells me following

>>Lightwave command: load.
>>Loading "S:\SN\xxxxx.lws"
>>Error can't load image.
>>Scene loaded.
>>
>>Lightwave command: wait.
>>
>>Lightwave command: render.
>>Allocating frame buffer.
>>Allocating RGB buffer.
>>Allocating Z buffer.
>>Frame in progress: 1.
>>Updating images.
>>

>view1.jpg is an texture mapping for a panorama view of my scenery.
>It is located on S:\SN together with the object on which it was mapped.


>On this point my slave hangs and did nothing in the next minutes.


>On the master it hangs after ....

>>Lightwave command: load.
>>Loading "S:\SN\xxxxx.lws"
>>Scene loaded.
>>
>>Lightwave command: wait.
>>
>>Lightwave command: render.
>>Allocating frame buffer.
>>Allocating RGB buffer.
>>Allocating Z buffer.
>>Frame in progress: 1.
>>Updating images.
>>Filtering image "view1.jpg".

>I don't know how I could solve this problem

>Thanks in advance for all suggestions

>michael kluge
>weimar  --- germany ---

>email : [e-mail]
>       [e-mail]
>       [e-mail]


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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
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PAddy wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > HEY! anyone out there know how to use metanurbs in lightwave 5.0?
> > please email me if you do. I don't even know how to make a new
> > metanurb object!
>
> I'm sorry to sound funny but since Metanurbs was one of the big upgrade features of LW 5
> I expect you'll probably find something in the manuals that you got when you bought
> Lightwave. Provided you can read and aren't dyslexic you'll find them just that little
> bit useful.
>
> (If you're a pirate then as well as being a thief by stealing from Newtek, you're also
> potentially stealing from myself and other legal Lightwave users and that really pisses
> me off. If you are a pirate then bugger off out of our news group. You aren't welcome
> here. Don't forget that we now have your email address.)
>
> Then again, if you're not a pirate just read the manual. If I was at home I'd have my
> manuals and be able to tell you what page to look on. But I'm not so I can't.
> If you're at college ... oops. Sorry.
>
> Paddy.


p. 272 and 296 of the User Guide and tutorial #7(p.439)

Paul

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pmiles wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, buying software is a lot like buying a car.  You can
> read all the slicks you want, but in the end, you still have to test
> drive it before you buy it.
>
> In my opinion, unless you've actually used one of these packages before,
> you're not in the position to judge which is better, let alone
> understand what it is that you're looking for under the hood.  Asking
> the question "Which is better?" is like waving the car salesman over
> to have him sell you on what he thinks you need, not what you need.
>
> If you've used this kind of software before, you know what you're
> looking for... the question isn't "Which is better?" but rather "Which
> package offers...?".  If you don't know what it is that you're looking
> for, how will you ever know that you've got it?  The salesman will sell
> you exactly what you're looking for, if you don't know what that is,
> that's exactly what you just bought.
>
> Just my two cents...
>
> [e-mail]
-----------------

Unfortunately, you would have to take several months out of your life to
fully evaluate(ie actually produce) the various software, which all have
a medium to steep learning curve(or mabey DEEP instead of steep).

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From: [e-mail] (Ninja or Sniper)
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could someone E-mail me some B5 stuff in *.lwb or *.3ds format

the station
a shadow ship not the little ones
a star ferry
 and anything from B5 that you can think of.

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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Jerome Chan) wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]>, "Kenneth A. Carter"
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >>In case you haven't heard. Apple plans to "buy" Be.

I think its high time Apple learned a little something from Microsoft and
just steal the damn BE OS.

Joe Monahan

> >
> >Apple maps '97 merger of Mac OS 8 and BeOS
> >"High-level talks with Be heat up"
> >http://www.macweek.com/top_stories/news_beos.html
> >
>
> Well, it's not confirmed yet. And it's kind of silly what MacWeek has to
> say about the status of the MacOS and BeOS merger.
>
> ---
>  The Evil Tofu (Only Human)

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Ali Abdullah wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > I recently posted a request on how to blend one texture into
> > another. specifically I want to make half a saxphone look like
> > stone, the other like a normal saxaphone.
> >
> > I received no replys, but I believe I may have figured out a
> > solution. However, it relys on placing one copy of the object
> > exactly inside a slightly larger version. I can't user the same
> > side because LW gets confused with the polygons occupying the
> > same space.
> >
> > Therefore, my question is whether anybody out there knows of a
> > plugin that will enable me to enlarge the saxaphone. A normal
> > scale will not suffice, as this moves all the points away from
> > the centre of the object. What I require is something that will
> > move each point along it's normal, regardless of direction in
> > relation to the object centre.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jason
>
> I don't know about a plugin, but if i got your question right, it seems
> to me that all you need to do is name half the sax as a different
> surface and voila...a bump map here and a reflection there and you got
> yourself a sax thats half stone & half brass.
>
> No???

The problem I'm trying to avoid is getting a distinct change between the
two textures. I'm looking for one to blend gradually into the other.

Thanks anyway (at least you replied!!)

Jason

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From: [e-mail] (David Oxley)
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In article <56b3pm$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Paradigm
Productions - Charles Gaushell) wrote:

>Does anyone know of a Lightwave plugin that has collision detection?

Charles,

Try http://www.dynamic-realities.com for Impact and Particle Storm.

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I'm looking for a plan photo of a basketball gym floor (without players)
to use as a texture map for a 3D model.  Any ideas where to look?  I've
tried searching the NET w/o any luck.  A reply to my email would be best.

Thanks.

Craig Lofgreen
3-D Design Inc.
http://www.accessone.com/~3ddesign
[e-mail]

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Jon Carroll wrote:
>
> >>The 200 Mhz Mac 604e was 24% faster then the 200 Dell Pentium Pro, and
> >>faster by  a greater margin then the 200 Gateway Pentium. (see below) My
> >>question was, given that these benchmarks only analyzed integer
> >>calculations, what effect can one expect in real world 3D/animation
> >>applications. In other words - what do integer calculations have to do
> >>with 3D apps?
>
> >>Quote from BYTE Web Page:
>
> >>"In a recent benchmark, BYTE compared Intel's 200 MHz Pentium® and Pentium
> >>Pro processors against Motorola's 200 MHz 603e and 604e PowerPC
> >>processors, respectively. The PowerPC processors outperformed their Intel
> >>counterparts in integer calculations by as much as 81% (Pentium vs. 603e)
> >>and in floating point calculations by as much as 26% (Pentium Pro vs.
> >>604e)."
>
> >>end quote
>
> >>Joe Monahan
>
> >Nobody's going to know until LW 5.0 is released on the Mac.  Mac beta testers
> > might have a clue, but that isn't final code so info on the beta wouldn't be
> > definitive.  Note that 4.0 performed relatively poorly (under Win95) on the
> >first release version and gained speed subsequently.  So how the program is
> >coded matters too.  If I had to guess though, the Power PC will probably be
> >about 26% faster than the Pentium Pro.  Floating point performance seems to
> >be  a pretty good predictor of LW performance (see Cyrix 6x86 for an
> >example.)
>
> >Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
>
> If there ever is a PPC version of LW on the AMiga, maybe we will see what the
> PPC 604 can bo without a bloated OS....
>
> -Jon Carroll
> [e-mail]
> Crescent Moon Productions
> Registered Phase5 Developer
> "The universe is already mad. Anything else would be redundant."
> -Ambassador Londo Mollari, Babylon 5

I understand the Mac version of LW will support the Daystar
multiprocessing API - I haven't heard anything about any of the NT
versions supporting multiple processors. So in the above scenario, the
PowerMac version would be faster overall.

Glenn

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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> <My guess(no hard evidence) will be that EIAS will be used for some of
> the space scenes since the EIAS Renderer is very capable of handling it
> and doing it fast. I think stuff like Jabba and digital monsters and
> such will most definitly be done in Renderman since it handles
> displacement maps beautifully as well as having the freedom with your
> shaders for creating great skin.>
>
> Jeff,
>
> All of the "Star Wars" space shots were done in ElectricImage with the
> native renderer, from what I've been told. I don't believe there are any
> SGI space shots in the shows. However, many of the creature and Jabba
> shots (which have prompted criticism from some who've seen them) are
> apparently being re-done in Softimage and Renderman (from ElectricImage).
>
> -- Jon A. Bell

EIAS has SGI slave cameras, which is why John Knoll can get away with
using the program on a PowerMac at home to set up many of the effects
shots he works on. Simply set up the scene, then let the roomful of SGI
render machines at ILM go to work. This is how many of the shots in
ST:Generations were done.

Glenn

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Renderman is a Pixar product, not an Electric Image product.

--
Brad Bowman
Digital Artist
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[e-mail] wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> <My guess(no hard evidence) will be that EIAS will be used for some of
> the space scenes since the EIAS Renderer is very capable of handling it
> and doing it fast. I think stuff like Jabba and digital monsters and
> such will most definitly be done in Renderman since it handles
> displacement maps beautifully as well as having the freedom with your
> shaders for creating great skin.>
>
> Jeff,
>
> All of the "Star Wars" space shots were done in ElectricImage with the
> native renderer, from what I've been told. I don't believe there are any
> SGI space shots in the shows. However, many of the creature and Jabba
> shots (which have prompted criticism from some who've seen them) are
> apparently being re-done in Softimage and Renderman (from ElectricImage).
>
> -- Jon A. Bell
>

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Geoff Suttor wrote:

Sorry, Sorry, Sorry!

I was a bit upset and forgot to ammend "the post to" groups
to just mine!
Please forgive me it will NEVER happen again, slap my wrist at
the below mail addresses.
Again, yes I'm re-posting to all the groups to say SORRY!
It will be the last of it! :)

Cheers, I'm happier today, no get rich schemes.

Geoff Suttor
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> Interesting. However, have you ever heard of two companies called Sony
> and Sega ? They are using SoftImage and LightWave packages for their
> games now. In my book both Sony and Sega still own about 75% of the
> games market. Must mean something... ;-)

What about the Nintendo platform? Additionaly I am sure most of the
companies have a slew of software you or I will never see. Also I bet
they have more than just two commercial 3D apps.

> > Additionally, EI 3.0 will fully support Renderman. Will be available for
> > MacOS and NT. ElectricImage showed up at last months meeting and gave us
> > a sneek peek of what's coming. With Renderman support and their new kick
> > ass modeler, maybe Pixar will start using EI too? ;-)
>
> I guess ILM will start loosing contract to D2 even faster now... ;-)

I am curious, does this mean that Renderman will be supported again on
the Mac and the PC?

Jeff

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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I recently posted a request on how to blend one texture into
> another. specifically I want to make half a saxphone look like
> stone, the other like a normal saxaphone.
>
> I received no replys, but I believe I may have figured out a
> solution. However, it relys on placing one copy of the object
> exactly inside a slightly larger version. I can't user the same
> side because LW gets confused with the polygons occupying the
> same space.
>
> Therefore, my question is whether anybody out there knows of a
> plugin that will enable me to enlarge the saxaphone. A normal
> scale will not suffice, as this moves all the points away from
> the centre of the object. What I require is something that will
> move each point along it's normal, regardless of direction in
> relation to the object centre.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jason

I don't know about a plugin, but if i got your question right, it seems
to me that all you need to do is name half the sax as a different
surface and voila...a bump map here and a reflection there and you got
yourself a sax thats half stone & half brass.

No???

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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Babylon 5 done in EI?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:25:58 -0500
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> The Lucas Arts division uses AfterEffects/Mac and 3dStudio/NT for games
> production. Many of them come to and demo their work at the AfterEffects
> user group. Mark Christiansen shows up all the time. I've been asked to
> teach web animation at next months meeting.
>
Interesting. However, have you ever heard of two companies called Sony
and Sega ? They are using SoftImage and LightWave packages for their
games now. In my book both Sony and Sega still own about 75% of the
games market. Must mean something... ;-)

> Additionally, EI 3.0 will fully support Renderman. Will be available for
> MacOS and NT. ElectricImage showed up at last months meeting and gave us
> a sneek peek of what's coming. With Renderman support and their new kick
> ass modeler, maybe Pixar will start using EI too? ;-)

I guess ILM will start loosing contract to D2 even faster now... ;-)

Jean-Eric

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> well, they use EI for the shots of the Centauri palace and the Narn palace,
> but they're still using LW for everything else. If there was a Radiosity
> renderer for LW, they probably wouldn't use EI at all...
>
3rd party development for LightWave radiosity shaders is already in
progress.

Jean-Eric

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From: Gregg Lukomski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: SGI? With today's market? was:O2, How Much?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:58:38 -0800
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Eric D. Wiesen wrote:
>
>         To be honest, I don't really understand the argument that the
> advantage of O2 is some future performance level. I'm sure that some
> extra performance can be gained by specifically optimizing software
> for the O2 (although having to write new versions of software for a
> specific machine is quite a step backwards if you ask me. And yes,
> this is a rewrite of very basic code, not a simple recompile), but
> other than that the argument falls flat on its face.

     There can be no doubt that the O2 is a niche machine, and in its
element, does a great job of filling that niche.  A lot of the hype
concerning 'O2 Software' is simply that, hype.  But you have to admit
that the machine has its strengths.  Rewriting code for the new features
is a pain for developers, *but* thats only if you look at the O2 as a
one trick pony in the SGI lineup.  I'd be surprised if the replacement
for the Indigo2 is more than a seriously hopped up multi-processor
O2 with upgradable graphics hardware, making it totally code compatable
with the standard O2, therefore making the 'O2 port' a necessity for
developers to stay on an even keel with SGI platform coding
requirements.

>         In fact, I would argue the exact opposite. The whole advantage to an
> NT machine is upgradeability (alright, there are several other major
> advantages, but this is the one that pertains to this question). If
> you've got a Pentium Pro-based machine and you need more processor
> power, you can buy a new motherboard/processor and upgrade to an
> Alpha, or to the next generation Intel processor when it comes out.

     I believe that the R5000 is still on a sort of daughtercard for
possible upgrade to R10000...  I may be wrong, but in the past, this has
been SGI's mode of operation.  Regardless, the graphics performance for
the O2 is nearly identical between the R5000PC/SC and R10000 (from
specs). This I like.  As I still do my rendering the 'cheap' way
(Pentium farm), I don't feel the cpu raw horespower hit the way
that single system operators do.  If I need more speed, I simply
add a box for however long I need it...  and the budget/time constraints
decide just how hefty that box needs to be.

[snip]
> our performance. A person who goes out and buys an O2 can't do
> anything similar. What that person will have is a machine that was
> intriguing at the time, but crippled because SGI cut corners and
> designed it with zero-upgradeability. O2 is only attractive because it
> costs less than Indigo 2's, and because people are enamored with the
> idea of a $6k SGI. The reality of it, unfortunately, just doesn't add
> up.

     I think that a lot of this argument against SGI and pro NT is
keyed to the state of the industry.  Even a year and a half ago, it
was almost unheard of for a production house to generate *any* 3D
media internally if it didn't have a dedicated in-house gfx dept.  Now,
with apps like crystal graphics flying fonts and the like, a lot of
the 'walk in' business has disappeared.  We were also in a market of
'have animation output capability' and 'don't have it', where
animators who could lay off animation to tape were charging a
premium for even low end work.  This is also over.  Any non-linear
setup can assemble broadcast quality graphics.  The market is changing,
and many of us have to adapt or fade away.

    I personally don't even want to try to compete with the hordes of
MAX, 3DS and Lightwave users that buy a box, get some software by hook
or by crook, plop in an AV Master board, and start to saturate the
market by sheer numbers.  We each are being forced to splinter and
redefine just what type of work we do and specialize in that
particular area.  I'd rather be the one guy on the block running
Alias in a market of 50 Lightwaver's, or the only source in town for
Pandemonium work or motion capture.  Clients are much more savvy than
ever before.  Three years ago, Betacam was Betacam for the most part.
Now, the high end clients cringe if you're working with UVW series
decks :)  We also know that what impresses clients is generally not
what impresses other animators!  You may have a techincally and
artistically superior reel that would instantly get you a gig at
Digital Domain, but the clinets still love the misuse of lens flares :)

   A large part of what we do is smoke and mirrors and we all know that.
We make animation look like rocket science when for the most part, the
'everyday' work we do doesn't push the software envelope, maybe one
in a dozen gigs allow us to sink our creative teeth into a truly
stunning piece and 'make the next cut' of our show reels...  None of
this has to do with the comparative performance of our machines, our
personal talent as animators or the newest vaporware to set off a
computer war in the newsgroups.  The majority is just work to pay
the bills.

   I find that having a machine that isn't on the beaten path allows
me to cater to a client base that feels more secure that my machine is
different from the one that his secretary is scheduling his meetings
with :)  In some cases, especially when LW was amiga only, the machine
on that secretaries desk was actually more powerful than my amiga!

   People can scoff at SGI pricing and the lack of stunning benchmarks,
and say that 'its all how skilled an animator you are', but we're
talking the film and video production market here, definately a world
of 'style over substance'.  Since I 'went' SGI, I've gotten more work
*without even providing a demo reel* than I've gotten with a pretty
solid reel/PC in the past two years, and I'm not even running LW 5.0
at P120 speeds :) (Indigo R4000SC with Lightwave 4.0)  You said it
yourself, "people are enamored with the idea of a $6k SGI."  That's
true, and producers are still, for the time being, enamored with the
idea of having SGI produced graphics in their production, regardless
of the software used.  I'm not going to rethink this until I start to
hear "Wow, you're running SGI's and not NT?", from someone other than
another animator :)

   I still believe that of two identically skilled animators, each
running the same software, the SGI based individual will make more
money :)  If you want to see some hard numbers on this, AV Video
(Oct, 1996) found SGI animators get paid more than $10000 more a year
than PC based animators included in the survey.

   Grant can (but probably shouldn't) answer this... does he, in the
Alpha/LW dept at D2, get paid the same as his alter-ego in the SGI lab?

   IMHO, That underpowered, non-upgradable, 'cheezy video mapped on
cubes', crippled, 'smurf looking/40's toasterlike' little O2 is a
pretty damn good little investment for a professional working in a
saturated market.  Heck, even if you use it as a bookend for your NT
produced demo reels :)

   You still need a talent to 'stay' in business and make a client
happy, but the SGI logo sure isn't hurting *my* prospects, but your
milage may vary :)

--
Gregg Lukomski
Orlando, Florida
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Craig Townsend)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: How to Blend Textures
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Ali Abdullah wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] wrote:
>> >
>> > I recently posted a request on how to blend one texture into
>> > another. specifically I want to make half a saxphone look like
>> > stone, the other like a normal saxaphone.
>>
>> I don't know about a plugin, but if i got your question right, it seems
>> to me that all you need to do is name half the sax as a different
>> surface
>The problem I'm trying to avoid is getting a distinct change between the
>two textures. I'm looking for one to blend gradually into the other.
>
Hey Jason,I might have an idea for you to play around with.How about
using textured layers and surfacing your sax as brass and then adding
another texture layer as stone and using falloff in the vertical
direction.You will need to set the texture center for the fading
textureat the bottom or top of your sax depending which end is
stone.You will also need to play with the teture opacity.This method
is only going to work with LW5.I was hoping to have time to try this
out before responding but have been to busy animating for projects.I
have used a similiar technique several times before when blending was
needed so it might work.Let me know if you need more details-maybe
I'll get a chance to try it.BTW,this technique is also cool for
transparency.

Craig Townsend
Innovative Video Productions




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From: Steve <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: HEY NEWTEK!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:09:19 -0600
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To: Ben Cannon <[e-mail]>

Ben Cannon wrote:
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Laura Rogers wrote:
> > >
> > > To Brad Peebler and all the other lunatics that make Lightwave happen:
> > >
> > > How about giving us a UNIX port???
> > >
> > > there are a lot of us out here who don't want SGI's and really HATE Bill
> > > Gates (hint, hint, hint)
> > >
> > > So how about it? how hard could it really be hmmmm?????
> >
> > get a Mac
> > Alot of people who want a UNIX port??  I doubt there really is a market for for
> > Lightwave beyond PCs, SGI's,
> > Amigas, and Macs.
>
> You've obviously never seen an HP workstation with a Visualise48 boardset :)
>
> Sure, my SGI Indy is sexier, (and allot cheaper) but porting the SW would help
> HP, and surely generate a bit of extra revenue.
>
> It's be a peice of cake to port the SGI version to almost any UNIX variant.
> (I'd do it meself, if I had a HP and the source code....  take a day at the most..)
>
> Why is it that the people who bash UNIX have never even seen a UNIX machine?... :)
>
> --
> "Everyone dies, but not everyone really lives...."
> -Mel Gibson, "Braveheart."
>       ~~~>http://168.75.121.10/ben.html<~~~

Why is it you presume I have never seen a UNIX machine (assuming you are thinking I am bashing
UNIX which I am not)?

Besides UNIX is a class of operating systems not a machine.  Many systems that run a flavor of
UNIX can run other operatings sysems, too.  Is this HP unix only?

I have not only seen but worked on "UNIX machines". ooohhhh aaawwww.

My intention was to make a subjective assessment of the UNIX market outside of SGIs.  I used
to hope and hope for linux ports of all my software, but get real.  If you are doing animation
(not CAD) and digital video, its WindowsNT, MacOS, and Irix.  Maybe in the future the list
will include BeOS and the WinNT competitor that IBM and Sun are working on.  That is not to
say these are the be all end all OSs and machines, but outside these there is not much of a
market for animation and digital video or computer art in general.

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for sale, LightWave5.0 intel $899

steve

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I recently posted a request on how to blend one texture into
another. specifically I want to make half a saxphone look like
stone, the other like a normal saxaphone.

I received no replys, but I believe I may have figured out a
solution. However, it relys on placing one copy of the object
exactly inside a slightly larger version. I can't user the same
side because LW gets confused with the polygons occupying the
same space.

Therefore, my question is whether anybody out there knows of a
plugin that will enable me to enlarge the saxaphone. A normal
scale will not suffice, as this moves all the points away from
the centre of the object. What I require is something that will
move each point along it's normal, regardless of direction in
relation to the object centre.

Thanks

Jason

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From: [e-mail] (WAY. MARK)
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Subject: Help with explosion
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I am trying to make a spaceship explode.  Can anyone please give me advice on
how to go about it. I have the vague idea that it would probably involve using
an object morph and texture morph of some sort, together with the use of other
pieces from the space craft. Thanks in advance.

Also , I have another query about the use of bones with IK.  I was under the impresion that after setting the IK-Movement limiting options, that you could move the bones(or rotate them) in layout view window and the limitations would work in real time. Th
a registered owner of LW5. The manual doesn't seem to cover this in any detail.

Thanks-please reply this news group.
Ps. I have a day job, I am still learning LW with the view to do part time work in the future- re: Animations, etc.
Mark WAY
Perth, Western Australia.

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From: [e-mail] (WAY. MARK)
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Subject: Animating Living breathing Animals.
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I have been experimenting with animating various animals/characters.
-using LW5

I would like to know if anyone reading this has had experience animating
animals and human characters in lw5. How did you set up your bones, etc.
how many bones and where would you place them, settings etc for animating
a human-for realistic results in movement. Any little tricks to remember.

I apologise to readers for asking so many questions, but I hope that someone
can set me straight in this.

Also if anyone has animated characters talking, what would be the best method?
Maybe object list, or morph, or combination with texture morphs?

Thanks in advance for any replies.
Mark WAY
Perth, Western Australia.

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From: Matthew Stratfold <[e-mail]>
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Subject: 3d Hardware acceleration
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I'm about to buy a PC for work with 3d rendering and am looking at what
graphics card to use.

Do 3d rendering packages make use of a 3d hardware acceleration card
(such as Matrox millenium, 3d Blaster, Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 etc)?

If they do which packages, which cards and what use? Is it just previews
or do they help with the final render?

Should I look out for certain standards - ie. is DirectX or Open GL any
use?

So many questions! Please reply if you can throw light into my
confusion!

Matthew

Dr.Matthew Stratfold, Electronic Media Lecturer,
The Institute of Educational Technology, The Open University, Milton
Keynes, UK.
Email: [e-mail]
Tel: [phone]

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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Lightwave "shading language" possable?
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Maybe it's just bias by the renderman guys, but i hear constantly that
one of the big keys to having CG be totaly realistic is to have some
kind of programmable shading language ala renderman.

  Does anybody know if this is possible in the future?  I hate
programming, but if that's what it takes to really wow people and get
good clients, whatever.  LW has some algorithmic "shaders" but they are
pretty simplistic, albeit versatile.  Is there any way future LW
versions could allow one to quickly create new and unique custom
shaders?

  And another thing, supposidly nowdays with all that digital
compositing and new film stocks, you NEED 10, 12, heck maybe 16 bits per
color channel now.  Will LW have the means in the near future for color
depth bigger than 8 bit?

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Dopeeey wrote:
>
> The Xerox corporation hired about 50 of the most computer oriented
> people back in the day.  On this team of advanced intelligence, was Bill
> Gates, not the Apple dude.  They stressed but made this great huge
> Operating System, but did not think it was usable - it was too big and
> complex.  Because of this, they did not patent it.  So, they invite all
> of these people to come see their OS, and the apple dude was one of
> them, saw it, and remade it in his/her own conception.  So, in
> actuality, Bill Gates was the first to make it, apple saw and made their
> own many years later WITH advanced technology (so none of that "apple
> was better," they had time, money, and technology on their side), then
> Windows came out.

I would add to this that Microsoft was probably one of the most
innovative company on the Macintosh front. Remember that MS-Word and
Excel were probably the most advanced graphically oriented packages
availlable on any platform. Microsoft developped an approach and a
design philosophy that it was able to refine before launching Windows
3.0.

Microsoft was partly responsible for helping establish a software design
standard for interface and the look and feel that is so much part of the
Macintosh today. So no, Bill Gates did not copy Apple. In fact,
Microsoft was a big partner, and supporter of the Macintosh and still
is. If Microsoft wanted to kill the Macintosh, all they have to do is
stop development of MS-Word and Excel for the Mac, still Mac
Best-sellers.

Jean-Eric

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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Compositing Lightwave and video
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:48:04 -0500
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Jon Carroll wrote:
>
> >I was wondering what people are using for compositing with Lightwave.
>
I believe the Video Toaster can do this in real time by keying the
luminance chanel. Not very flexible, but it's dirt cheap and fast.

Jean-Eric

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I write: Is this really necessary..? I think most of us have very little
time to spare on reading comments like yours on this particular
group... (Why do I even bother to comment it myself..? ;))

Steve Sloan wrote:
>
> neteru wrote:
> >
> > As much as I hate Clinton and think he would look really good with a
> > 9mm slug in his one his many lying faces, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO
> > POST THIS!!!
> >  (Please note that at no time did I threaten the life of the
> > President, or infer that I had any plan or knowledge of any
> > assassination plans on Mr. Clinton. I mearly said I would applaud the
> > act if it was carried out by domestic terrorists.)
>
> Are YOU the reason Clinton wants to over-regulate the internet?
> --

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From: [e-mail] (er)
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Subject: LWave5.0    VRML   ?? does this work?
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I cant get any texture maps on my vrml objects exported from LW.
I have used scene2vrml and savevrml and no luck, has anyone gotten
this to work?  if so let me know how.

thanks
dirkhacker

contact me @

[e-mail]



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From: Kirk Hutchinson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium or 3dxpression....or maybe 3dfx.
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:18:02 -0500
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William Longworth wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Oscar Bojing) wrote:
>
> >Hi, I´m not sure on what card I´m going to buy.
> >I´m going run 3d max and lightwave. So what kind of things schould the
> >card support? Open GL, renderware, direct 3d or.... help me!
>

Howdy!

I previously posted a like for the 3Dfx Voodoo graphics chip (now seen
in the Monster3D and Righteous3D boards); however, after discussion
with the tech support people at 3Dfx, they said they have no support
for OpenGL (but that's not what their brochure says !!!).

So, if you want to run OpenGL stuff, you may want to consider the
Imagine 128 2/2e boards.  They atleast offer the fastest acceleration,
and they definitely support OpenGL.

I asked them if they were planning on supporting Direct3D, but they have
not responded yet.

Cheers!
kirk
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[e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]

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From: Ali Abdullah <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I am curious whether anyone out here can help me speed up the process of
> using layout to put together scenes.  In 3D-Studio there is a function
> called Hide Objects, and you can set the visibility speed of each
> individual object (like LW 4.0)  Anyhow, what is handy in 3D-Studio is the
> hiding of objects greatly speeds the rendering of a scene (for texture
> tests, and so on.).
>
> I am very interested in transfering my energies into using Lightwave
> rather than 3D-Studio, so that I can take advantage of the huge host of
> features.  I appreciate this newsgroup's help!


Try using the Limited Region option (by pressing "l") and then sizing the borders with the
mouse. You can turn this off by clicking the button in the Camera menu.

Or, use the Object Replacement Plugin to temporarily substitute a high polygon count object
with an object thats lower in polygon count.

Another option of course is to 100% disolve the objects you dont need for the time being.


Ali

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From: [e-mail] (Mike Muir)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Matrox Mill w 4Meg . Price ?
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>> >A friend just bought one for $389. My friend got his through Ace
>> >Computers in Mt. Prospect, Illinois.CDW (Computer Discount Warehouse)has
>> >it for $425, but it can be found cheaper. Check Computer Shopper mag for
>> >prices.

>> How's $350 (+S&H) ?
>> Matrox MGA Millenium 4MB Vram

>Thats WRAM.

And it can be had for less than $300.


Mike

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From: [e-mail] (Phil)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Joe Monahan) wrote:

>I think its high time Apple learned a little something from Microsoft and
>just steal the damn BE OS.
>
>Joe Monahan

Actually, if they were to play the Microsoft game they would just HIRE the
BeOS programmers. As Microsoft hired a lot of ex-Commodore Amiga
OS programmers, and set one as head project leader for Win95.

Phil

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Matthew Stratfold wrote:
>
> I'm about to buy a PC for work with 3d rendering and am looking at what
> graphics card to use.
>
> Do 3d rendering packages make use of a 3d hardware acceleration card
> (such as Matrox millenium, 3d Blaster, Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 etc)?

Yes, if you get the right hardware.

> If they do which packages, which cards and what use? Is it just previews
> or do they help with the final render?

Both, again, with the right hardware.
> Should I look out for certain standards - ie. is DirectX or Open GL any
> use?

Y E S !!!  That is the only way to go.

If you are planning on doing any 3D modelling, etc..., you need a board
that
will support OpenGL.  If you want to play games you need DirectX and
Direct3D.
Depending on your price range, I would recommend the Matrox Millenium,
or
even better, one of the Imagine 128 boards.

If you just want to play games - Diamond's Monster 3D is the BEST. -
Plus it
comes with a whole bunch of FULL version and intro games.

You're welcome.
kirk
-------
[e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail]

> So many questions! Please reply if you can throw light into my
> confusion!
>
> Matthew
>
> Dr.Matthew Stratfold, Electronic Media Lecturer,
> The Institute of Educational Technology, The Open University, Milton
> Keynes, UK.
> Email: [e-mail]
> Tel: [phone]

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Try a glow effect on some stars, and if you have the time how about some
tiny lens
flare stars. also star field objects of different particle/line size works
well.

--
Tom Taylor
mailto:[e-mail]
http://londo.dvp.com.au/~tomt


Joe Stratmann <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> I've been playing around with some space shots and the star background
> looks "dead".  I've used random stars as well as actual stars.  But the
> stars are all the same size and just seem to have no life to them.
>
> Can anyone offer some tips on how to make this look better?
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>

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Maybe I'm just lazy, but what can metaballs do better than metanurbs? If
they were animatable then great, but if they are just for modeling then
wont a metanurbs object produce a cleaner, more controllable mesh?
--
Tom Taylor
mailto:[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Stefan Nessmann)
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Once again:
Help! Can anybody tell me where to buy  "Symmetric GLyder"
videoboards?
Seem to be unknown in Europe!
Are there different models ? Which is suggested ?
Please email to [e-mail]

Stefan Nessmann
Vienna Austria
***************

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Baker)
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On 11-Nov-96 11:15:31, Mark Midolla ([e-mail]) in
comp.graphics.apps.lightwave, re: <LW5 Amiga, Newtek, all I want is a
progress update> said:
>Newtek,

>All I want is a progress update every couple of weeks as to where its
>at, instead of just silence.

>--
>Mark Midolla      | [e-mail]
>Hardware Engineer |
>Hypertec Pty Ltd  | www.hypertec.com.au

The product team has not completed testing and debugging of the product
yet.  Beyond that, there is no more that they are willing to say.  When
the product is ready, it will be shipped as quickly as production
logistics can make it happen.



======================================================================
Chuck Baker -- NewTek, Inc., Technical Support Services
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From: "Dean A. Scott" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: How to Blend Textures
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> > > I recently posted a request on how to blend one texture into
> > > another. specifically I want to make half a saxphone look like
> > > stone, the other like a normal saxaphone.
> The problem I'm trying to avoid is getting a distinct change between the
> two textures. I'm looking for one to blend gradually into the other.

Make two copies of the sax each with differenct surface names.

Make a grayscale image (400 x 50) of a gradient that is white for
150 pixels, goes from white to black in 100 pixels (1/4 of the image
width), and is black the rest of the 150 pixels.

Use this as a Z axis Planar transparency map on one sax (assuming
the object is symmetrical on the Y axis) autosized.  Surface the
non-transparent half with one of your textures.

Next, apply the same image to the second sax, but negative image
clicked and texture the second set of surfaces.

Parent the second sax to the first and behold how the two
textures mix into eachother, half one, half the other.

If the transition is too sharp, simply make a wider white
to black gradient centered in the middle of the image.

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Morgan Price ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Thanks for all of your support guys, it has given me several options I
: hadn't thought about.  Here is a quick summary of what I have gleaned
: from you and my own search of the web:

: 1. Most composite tools are for the Mac :)

: 2. Ultimatte's software plugin for Photoshop IS being ported to
: Windows, just not in time for my little project here.  (Jon, this is a
: software implementation of their system, check out www.ultimatte.com
: for details of their Mac vesion 2.0)

: 3. Some non-linear editors do have some compositing features, for
: example: Video Action NT(4.0) by StarMedia-it, but it is $1000 and
: thats all I'll be using it for as I have Premiere.

: 4. Premiere doesn't have good built-in compositing (that I know of).

: MORGAN
: _____________________
: Morgan Price
: Priceless Productions
: [e-mail]
: Victoria, BC
: http://vvv.com/~priceless/

Why can't you just save your Lightwave animation as a targa sequence and
load the sequence into Premiere save the project as a filmstrip and load
the filmstrip into Photoshop and do your composition there and save it out,
load it back into Premiere and save the project out as a targa sequence back
out to the Perception card?


Terrence Pitts

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Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Jon Carroll wrote:
>>
>> >I was wondering what people are using for compositing with Lightwave.
>>
>I believe the Video Toaster can do this in real time by keying the
>luminance chanel. Not very flexible, but it's dirt cheap and fast.
>
>Jean-Eric

Another alternative is Video Action NT(4.0) especially if you are
using a PVR.I have been working with(not for) them as a Beta tester
and pushing the compositing end of it since I am an animator(LW).They
have blue screen,green screen,alpha channel,luma,chroma,etc.It is put
out by Starmedia-check it out on their site( www.videoaction.com)if
interested.

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From: Wil Mobberley <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>, Steve <0@0.0> writes
>Providing a message containing a binary is marked as such I don't see
>what the problem is.

The problem is that some newsreaders automatically download new postings
so you only get to see that you've downloaded a binary AFTER it's on
your machine. By then you've already paid the bill to download it. You
can choose not to view it but you've already paid for it.

That's why people get a bit ratty. Better to put it on a web site and
invite visitors :-)
--
Wil Mobberley  - 3D graphic artist
Web site: http://www.mobydick.demon.co.uk
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From: [e-mail] (David Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Steve Axtell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'd like to get back on the list.  COuld someone send me Dave Warner's
: email to get hooked up again.  Thanks.  Ax

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From: John Warren <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave "shading language" possable?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:35:45 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Maybe it's just bias by the renderman guys, but i hear constantly that
> one of the big keys to having CG be totaly realistic is to have some
> kind of programmable shading language ala renderman.
> .... STUFF DELETED ....
>  Is there any way future LW
> versions could allow one to quickly create new and unique custom
> shaders?

Actually, Lightwave already supports the ability to write your own
shaders (with datatypes similar to Renderman's); however, it doesn't
appear to be as accessible as Renderman Shading Language (RSL). I've
never
programmed a Lightwave PlugIn Shader (but I've looked through the
LW SDK and it doesn't look nearly as fun as RSL). I would like to see
a plug-in that would directly support Renderman shaders (and I thought
somebody was actually working on this). Perhaps they'll post with a
follow-up to this thread.

But, I definitely agree that it would be nice to conveniently be able
to program custom shaders as needed.

-John Warren
 The Advanced Computing Center for the Arts & Design
 [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (KL Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Performance of LW5 on Win95 or NT
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Is there a performance difference for LW5 running on Win95 vs. WinNT.  Anyone
tried?

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Does that handle Open GL and how well?  Ax

Mike Muir wrote:
>
> >> >A friend just bought one for $389. My friend got his through Ace
> >> >Computers in Mt. Prospect, Illinois.CDW (Computer Discount Warehouse)has
> >> >it for $425, but it can be found cheaper. Check Computer Shopper mag for
> >> >prices.
>
> >> How's $350 (+S&H) ?
> >> Matrox MGA Millenium 4MB Vram
>
> >Thats WRAM.
>
> And it can be had for less than $300.
>
> Mike

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<EIAS has SGI slave cameras, which is why John Knoll can get away with
using the program on a PowerMac at home to set up many of the effects
shots he works on. Simply set up the scene, then let the roomful of SGI
render machines at ILM go to work. This is how many of the shots in
ST:Generations were done.>

Aha! So that's how John gets away with all those shots. (Sure wish I had a
rendering farm of about 300 SGIs!) Thanks, Glenn, for the info.

-- Jon A. Bell

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From: Gregory Seid <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Symmetric GLyder: Where to buy?
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Stefan Nessmann wrote:
>
> Once again:
> Help! Can anybody tell me where to buy  "Symmetric GLyder"
> videoboards?
> Seem to be unknown in Europe!
> Are there different models ? Which is suggested ?
> Please email to [e-mail]

I don't know of any retailers, but try their web site:
    http://www.symmetric.com

Somewhere on their site, there should be a list of official
retailers.

-----
Gregory Seid
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (KL Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Pls help on the plugin removal subject.  Thx.

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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 04:41:17 GMT
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        I am currently working on a Lightwave web page for a
local newtek dealer. I am in need good examples of lightwave work. If
you would be interested in being a part of the Gallery please e-mail
your jpg images to [e-mail].  Please include your
name, e-mail address, and web page (if applicable).

    All pictures used will be credited to their authors.

        Thanks,
            Tom S.

    [e-mail]


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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Bill Gates copied Apple's OS!!! HA!!!!
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Joe Monahan wrote:
>
> In article <01bbd09f$929d9940$[e-mail]>, "Brad
> Bowman" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Billy may not be an innovator but he is a marketing genius.
>
> This was sort of my original point. Gates is living proof that you can
> fool most of the people most of the time. In my book, technology innovator
> is a good thing - marketing genius is not. Your opionion may differ.
>
> Joe Monahan
>
> > --

Yeah, technology inovators gave us the wonderful Atomic Bomb, and they
gave us smart weapons, and they gave us biological weapons. They gave us
gun powder, they gave us nitro glycerin. They even gave us the first
computer, who's use was in targeting artillery shells.

I'd say Gates was pretty harmless. Rich, but harmless.

You're denigration of the average person, just goes to show what an
effete computing snob you really are. People use this stuff to get their
every-day work done and go on with their lives. It's just not as
important as you think it is. You have my permission to use whatever OS
you wish. Does that make a difference? Now, leave us alone.

--
Elliot Bain
Laurell Creative Services
614.459.4404

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From: nkshivan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Jean-Eric Hénault wrote:
>

>
> I would add to this that Microsoft was probably one of the most
> innovative company on the Macintosh front. Remember that MS-Word and
> Excel were probably the most advanced graphically oriented packages
> availlable on any platform. Microsoft developped an approach and a
> design philosophy that it was able to refine before launching Windows
> 3.0.

MacWrite was out before MSWord, and was a better program til word 2.0
came out.  Excel, on the otherhand, WAS innovative.  Hell, Excel was
birthed on the Mac, as was FoxPro (or so I've been told)
>
> Microsoft was partly responsible for helping establish a software design
> standard for interface and the look and feel that is so much part of the
> Macintosh today. So no, Bill Gates did not copy Apple. In fact,
> Microsoft was a big partner, and supporter of the Macintosh and still
> is. If Microsoft wanted to kill the Macintosh, all they have to do is
> stop development of MS-Word and Excel for the Mac, still Mac
> Best-sellers.
>
> Jean-Eric

True MS was a partner (I remember [were talk'n '85] a certain "Dating
Game" spoof hosted by Steve Jobs & featuring Bill Gates as a
"contestant").  However much of the look of Mac software was the design
of Apple.  The menus (File & Edit mainly) and window design was provided
by the Mac Toolbox (part of the OS).

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From: Elliot Bain <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: New QV, other stuff
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 23:50:47 -0500
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Ernie Wright wrote:
>
> QV, my render display plug-in for Windows LW, now has a Copy button that
> puts the image onto the clipboard.  This is the short-term solution for
> people who asked me whether the display could be made to persist while
> they went back to work in Layout.
>
> I've also just made available a standalone program for converting wire-
> frame preview files into AVIs.  A similar program that made Amiga ANIMs
> has been around for a while but hasn't been on my site until now.
>
> For both of these and other things, see
>
>    http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew/getstuff.html   OR
>    ftp://ftp.digex.net/pub/access/erniew
>
> - Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew

Since the December issue of LWPro will probably never see the light of
waves, is there anywhere else we can read your article on DOF?

--
Elliot Bain
Laurell Creative Services
614.459.4404

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From: Ben Cannon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: New SGI O2 : how much?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 03:04:05 -0800
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Eric D. Wiesen wrote:
> A person who goes out and buys an O2 can't do
> anything similar. What that person will have is a machine that was
> intriguing at the time, but crippled because SGI cut corners and
> designed it with zero-upgradeability. O2 is only attractive because it
> costs less than Indigo 2's, and because people are enamored with the
> idea of a $6k SGI. The reality of it, unfortunately, just doesn't add
> up.

Not sure if I should dignify this wiht a response, but I've gotta point
out that O2's graphics is on a slide-out card.

And to all you NT lovers, feel free to say what you think of the new O2
once you've seen one in action.

Please don't respond to mere marketing hype that could mean nothing,
or everything.

It just perpetuates a contest of ignorance.
--
"Everyone dies, but not everyone really lives...."
-Mel Gibson, "Braveheart."
      ~~~>http://168.75.121.10/ben.html<~~~

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: New QV, other stuff
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 00:25:35 -0500
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<Sigh>

There's a bug in lwwf2avi that will cause the program to crash when the
user attempts to convert a preview file that doesn't exist.  In other
words, if you forget to fill in the edit field for the filename of the
preview file, or type the name incorrectly, lwwf2avi dies.  Brian Thomas
([e-mail]) was the first to point this out to me.

A fixed version for ** Intel ** has been posted.  Hopefully I'll get the
Alpha fix up in the next day or so.  The Amiga flavor (lwwf2anim) is not
affected.

- Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew



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From: "Tom Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Free objects???????
Date: 14 Nov 1996 05:32:21 GMT
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I have recently been viewing 3D Cafe, Avalon etc. It seems to me that the
whole free object idea is SHONKY!!! Most of these objects do not have the
authers details atached. What is to stop me from posting an object that I
do not own to one of these sites.

--
Tom Taylor
mailto:[e-mail]
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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Any one migrated from 3DS to LW?...
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Can any one who migrated from 3DS to LW please comment a bit why you were
doing this, if not for the $?  Thanks.

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From: Alex Lugones <[e-mail]>
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I believe Dynamic Realities already created such a monster called
SHADERMAN. You can't program your own shaders, but they supply a nice
variety. Check it out at their web site.

http://www.dynamic-realities.com/

--
Alex Lugones

Wildseed 3D/Interactive
http://shell.idt.net/~wildseed

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From: [e-mail] (Joe Monahan)
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Alias Power Animator price is targeted to be reduced to $5000 US by next summer.
Base Animator with most of the functionality is available now for $5000
and student discounts make it very affordable. ($1500 or less).

Joe Monahan


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> If SGI could get the price of full blown Alias out of the
> $20k - $30k range and into the $5k - $10k range, I'd imagine
> these machines would fly off the shelves.
>
> George.

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From: "D, Flahaut" <[e-mail]>
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BurntPixels - Home of AVILOADR for Lightwave
HTTP://www.en.com/users/bforce

I'll post update news, updated pricing, updated BETA's, etc.. there.
Now I can get back to using my computer for programming/rendering
instead of serving FTP and HTML...

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In <[e-mail]> Ben Cannon <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Not sure if I should dignify this wiht a response, but I've gotta
point
>out that O2's graphics is on a slide-out card.
>
>And to all you NT lovers, feel free to say what you think of the new
O2
>once you've seen one in action.
>
>Please don't respond to mere marketing hype that could mean nothing,
>or everything.
>
>It just perpetuates a contest of ignorance.


I've seen one in action, it's nothing to respond to. Seems like SGI
decided to put the faster graphics chip in the Ultra64 instead...

AC


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From: Brad Ruekberg  <[e-mail]>
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>On 6 Nov 1996 04:55:16 GMT, "Melvyn Garland" <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>
>>Please can somebody help me to save avi. scenes.  I have tried everything
I
>>can think of.  Once I have specified where to save a scence it renders ok
>>but then I can not find it.  If I save a scence under HIIP-AVI32 I get a
>>message:-
>>
>>Error starting program
>>
>>The AVIFIL32.DLL file is linked to missing export NTDLL.DLL:memmove
>>
>>Could this be the problem????
>>
>>I would appreciate any ideas please
>>
Hi Mel

I assume you are using Win95 or NT. I just upgraded to 95 and installed the
95 version of Lightwave 4.0 and I too get the same error! I used to use LW
on Win 3.1 and it saved .avi files with no problem. But now when renderering
is finished there is no .avi file.

I also would like the solution for the following problems.
I am running LW4.0b patched to 4.0c on a P100 w/32m.

1. How do you get AVI saving to work on Win95. It worked fine on 3.1.
   I retained the newest avi files from the win95 cd rather than letting
   the LW install overwrite with older versions.

2. I installed the NT-avi.p (Newtek AVI) but it does not show up in
   the Animation type requester.

Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
JS

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On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:37:34 -0800, Philip Page <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>G.O.T wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for professional 3D artist who wants to work on
>> a commission basis on a new web site project.
>>
>> Extras: Free Homepage, E-Mail account, ftp etc.
>>
>> please reply ASAP
>> dan
>
>More Info please?

Yes I agree please send us more information.

or you can e-mail me @    [e-mail]


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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
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Elliot Bain wrote:
>
> Joe Monahan wrote:
> >
> > In article <01bbd09f$929d9940$[e-mail]>, "Brad
> > Bowman" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > >Billy may not be an innovator but he is a marketing genius.
> >
> > This was sort of my original point. Gates is living proof that you can
> > fool most of the people most of the time. In my book, technology innovator
> > is a good thing - marketing genius is not. Your opionion may differ.
> >
> > Joe Monahan
> >
> > > --
>
> Yeah, technology inovators gave us the wonderful Atomic Bomb, and they
> gave us smart weapons, and they gave us biological weapons. They gave us
> gun powder, they gave us nitro glycerin. They even gave us the first
> computer, who's use was in targeting artillery shells.
>
> I'd say Gates was pretty harmless. Rich, but harmless.
>
> You're denigration of the average person, just goes to show what an
> effete computing snob you really are. People use this stuff to get their
> every-day work done and go on with their lives. It's just not as
> important as you think it is. You have my permission to use whatever OS
> you wish. Does that make a difference? Now, leave us alone.
>
> --
> Elliot Bain
> Laurell Creative Services
> 614.459.4404

I personally have always kind of liked the atomic bomb.

Paul

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In article <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
<[e-mail]> writes:

>"Painterly Effects" is a function of PenelloLite.

Reminds me of those cookies, "Waverly Wafers"...

-M.

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From: "shemano" <[e-mail]>
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something to look into is that macromedia ( www.macromedia.com ) is
bundling extreme 3d ver2 with ati's superduper 3d video card for around
$400 (us) since extreme 3d ver2 is not shipping noone can say if it is any
good but i can say extreme 3d ver1 is halfway OK if you are just placing
objects where they look good and don't need high precision and don't mind
the limited renderer.

Matthew Stratfold <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> I'm about to buy a PC for work with 3d rendering and am looking at what
> graphics card to use.
>
> Do 3d rendering packages make use of a 3d hardware acceleration card
> (such as Matrox millenium, 3d Blaster, Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 etc)?
>
> If they do which packages, which cards and what use? Is it just previews
> or do they help with the final render?
>
> Should I look out for certain standards - ie. is DirectX or Open GL any
> use?
>
> So many questions! Please reply if you can throw light into my
> confusion!
>
> Matthew
>
> Dr.Matthew Stratfold, Electronic Media Lecturer,
> The Institute of Educational Technology, The Open University, Milton
> Keynes, UK.
> Email: [e-mail]
> Tel: [phone]
>

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Kirk Hutchinson <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...

> If you are planning on doing any 3D modelling, etc..., you need a board
> that will support OpenGL.  If you want to play games you need DirectX and
> Direct3D.

Isn't that backwards?

Decide which software you want to use, then determine which type of card
that software prefers.  Then shop around for a card of that type.  You
could be in for a rude shock if you make blind assumptions as to which type
of card your software will use.

Caligari Truespace, for example, is rumoured to be using Direct3D for its
modeller in the next version, not OpenGL.  If this is indeed the case,
someone following Kirk's advice would have wasted their money on a card
that Truespace wouldn't be able to use.

--
Just my own $.05.  (Inflation, you know...)

-grinch


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G.O.T wrote:
>
> I am looking for professional 3D artist who wants to work on
> a commission basis on a new web site project.
>
> Extras: Free Homepage, E-Mail account, ftp etc.
>
> please reply ASAP
> dan

Seems you have alot of interest in this post...along with
me...so please give us more information...or is this another
buy the software and do the models for us. I have the software...
just need the work. Experienced Illustrator, Designer, Draftsman,
with 3d modeling and animation training. with 15 years experience.
--
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Anybody have a good take on this beast??

The brochure looks pretty good, it has LW listed as one of the 3D apps
it supports....does it accelerate the open GL in LW??

Thanx Much,


MATT

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I got the spaceship tapes and it really filled in some gaps in my
knowledge, like the stuff about smoothing and cutting out polygons to
avoid unwanted smoothing, and the whole method of quickly making spaceship
surfaces.

His method of creating wings and other curved objects is also useful, as
it avoids spline patching.  Much simpler.



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Kirk Hutchinson wrote:

> Matthew Stratfold wrote:
> > Do 3d rendering packages make use of a 3d hardware acceleration card
> > (such as Matrox millenium, 3d Blaster, Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 etc)?

> Yes, if you get the right hardware.

> > If they do which packages, which cards and what use? Is it just previews
> > or do they help with the final render?

> Both, again, with the right hardware.
> > Should I look out for certain standards - ie. is DirectX or Open GL any
> > use?

> Y E S !!!  That is the only way to go.

> If you are planning on doing any 3D modelling, etc..., you need a board
> that
> will support OpenGL.  If you want to play games you need DirectX and
> Direct3D.
> Depending on your price range, I would recommend the Matrox Millenium,
> or
> even better, one of the Imagine 128 boards.
>
> If you just want to play games - Diamond's Monster 3D is the BEST. -
> Plus it
> comes with a whole bunch of FULL version and intro games.
>
> You're welcome.
> kirk


Thanks for your quick reply - this is exactly the sort of thing I need
to hear. Do the Millenium and Mystique support Open GL, their blurb
doesn't make anything of it?

Matthew

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William Longworth ([e-mail]) writes:
> "Kenneth A. Carter" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>>Wow, we had better inform the amateurs at ILM about this. Their
>>currently using EI on for a little film series called Star Wars.
>
> I thought that some of the models were done on EI, not the actual
> rendering.
>

Not that I actually want to be part of this silly thread(yeah right! :))
but EI doesn't have a modeller ,currently, so that kinda precludes any B5
models being created with it.

Sai



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>Can any one who migrated from 3DS to LW please comment a bit why you were
>doing this, if not for the $?  Thanks.

Well, for lots of reasons (including the price). Better modeling
tools, better texturing , bones, metanurbs, cel look features, lens
flares (though overused), better quality output, more control over
everything....

I changed over a few months ago from 3ds 4.0 to lightwave 5.0, and the
difference is amazing... to me it feels as if 3ds were designed for
architects and engineers, and LW was designed for television and film.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend LW to anyone interested in 3d (hey,
if it's good enough for amblin, digital domain, foundation, and soon
dreamworks....)


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Can Anyone help me?
If i render my animation to AVI file,what  video compression codex is
better (I have Indeo3.2;Cinepac;Intel VideoInteractive;Vdolive;Micrisoft
Video) for best qualitat AVI?
And what is (from qualitat) better for output to video tape:if I render
uncompressed AVI 32 direct in LightWave and record it to tape; or I render
Image-Sequence (for example .tga),load it in Premiere,compile in Premiere
uncompressed 32-AVI,and record id to tape?
For any suggestions thank you very much!
Valeri.

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Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:

[snip]

> Personally, I insert cards in my machines.  Its hard to get them to hit the
> slot when I slap them in.  And I don't wait for lightning to shoot through the
> ceiling to get them to boot either.  I think you are getting a little carried
> away there.

 If I had 150$/hr for each hour I've spent configuring/reconfiguring
installing dll's reinstalling windows (ad nauseum) on our PC's,
I could have bought 3 or 4 more SGI's.

 Paul
  [e-mail]

>
> Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
> Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
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Steve <0@0.0> wrote in article <[e-mail]>...
> On 8 Nov 1996 07:57:25 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> >Your executable file may be corrupted. Try re-installing from the
original
> >CD-ROM.
> >
>
> If you can't help don't waste the bandwidth.
>
> Steve
>

bit of a bandwidth-waster yourself eh???
or maybe the bandwidth-police???
perhaps the bandwidth-nazi???

tried wanking??? it may help?!

][.

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From: [e-mail] (John Rice)
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Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> well, they use EI for the shots of the Centauri palace and the Narn palace,
>> but they're still using LW for everything else. If there was a Radiosity
>> renderer for LW, they probably wouldn't use EI at all...
>>
>3rd party development for LightWave radiosity shaders is already in
>progress.

>Jean-Eric

Who? When?
If it will enable renderings like Lightscape (that's "scape", not
wave) I can't wait. Radiosity done right will extend lightwave's
photorealistic capabilities tremendously.

John


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From: "Murray Roke" <[e-mail]>
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At a guess (as I am quite new here) I would assume that the question of
"which is the best video card?" has been thrashed to death. The name I keep
hearing is Matrox Millenium.
I suppose my question really is a it simplistic and what I really
whant to know is whitch video card is "Best value for money?"
(Intel platform)

Alternately a pointer to a good site that has all the information would be
good.

--
From Murray                                       aka Myster
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From: [e-mail] (Atlantis)
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On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:39:15, [e-mail] (KL Choi) wrote:

>Is there a performance difference for LW5 running on Win95 vs. WinNT.  Anyone
>tried?

I've run Lightwave v5 on my system under NT351 and now on Win95 and
find that scenes render pretty much the same, sometimes only 1 second
difference.  Nothing dramatic but EXTREMELY close in render times.
I'm using a P166 w/96mb RAM and an ATI video card.

Hope this helps.

Bob


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From: Jeroen Pulles <[e-mail]>
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that's not an easy question Matthew;

There are a lot of graphics accelerating api's such as openGL from SGI
and directX from microsoft. Since a lot of the workstation software such
as Bentley Microstation  (with its own acceleration api) is coming to
the PC and the Mac PPC, I would expect them to start using the directX
api since that is fast becoming a standard accelator for wintel
computers and has the "Bill Gates effect" to it; meaning that other
developments for graphics apis for the pc are probably parallised by
joint developments from microsoft and others. That's one reason to bet
on directX acceleration. An other reason is cost. OpenGL accelerator
boards are much more expensive and need more videoRAM.

I think you should base your choice on the extent to which you would
like to have a professional CAD system or personal computer with which
you could use 3d studio max or caligari.

My best advice is: don't let all this acceleration stuff overwhelme you,
choose a compatible meanstream videoboard with enough VRAM or WRAM to
suit your needs.

comments:
OpenGl accelerator boards are available from ELSA and Diamond
(www.diamondmm.com/fcgw/) for example.
I believe the freeware program Alice uses DirectX technology.

good luck
Jeroen

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From: Mark Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cheap fast Alpha system for sale
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For sale:

DEC Alpha based workstation

300MHz  21064a based system
Benchmarks faster than most all other 21064a based systems
Easily accomodates a DPS Perception
Was used as a fast 3D animation system

System includes:

Motherboard with CPU (full size AT)
    on board SCSI controller
    3 PCI slots
    2 ISA slots
    2 serial/ 1 parallel port
    seperate PS/2 mouse port
Full size black tower case with 300W supply and 2 fans
4.3 GB SCSI-2 disk
64 MB ram
4 MB VRAM Diamond Stealth 64
17" Monitor
CD-ROM SCSI
Ethernet
Floppy
Keyboard
Mouse

$2900 or best offer

Call Mark at [phone]

--

*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
  *           Mark Thompson           http://www.mv.com/ipusers/fusion
*
  *         Fusion Films, Inc.              [e-mail]
*
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*
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From: "Valeri" <[e-mail]>
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If I work,for example,with Logos-Modelling in Modeler,i get message
"Internal buffer too small for this operation"(for
example-boolean,also-beveling and some other).
What is here wrong?
I work with LightWave 5,Windows NT 4,Pentium 133 with 64 Mb RAM.
Thank You Very Much.

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+-- "Valeri" <[e-mail]>:
| If I work,for example,with Logos-Modelling in Modeler,i get message
| "Internal buffer too small for this operation"(for
| example-boolean,also-beveling and some other).

This is a problem with the dongle.  Make sure the hardware key
is firmly seated and that the parallel port is operating
correctly.  You might also try re-installing the software and
Sentinal drivers.  If this all fails you may need to return your
dongle to NewTek for reprogramming.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: Ursula Krobath <[e-mail]>
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Hi. My name is Miguel. I've been working with LW for about
two years now.
Due to the fact that I have achieved quite a high level in
doing 3D-animations and stills, I am looking for a job all
over the world. I'm 23 and live in Austria. If you like to
see some of my work, please don't hesitate to contact me
by e-mail:
        [e-mail]

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As a sort of side note to this discussion, I was speaking with someone
from Alias|Wavefront yesterday and he told me that Maya, the new version
of Alias PowerAnimator will "import" renderman shaders and compile them
into Maya shaders and that they would look identical.

I'm interested in seeing this! Wouldn't it be great if LW, and other
programs, took this approach so that developers could create R-Man shaders
and then sell them to users of lots of different programs & renderers.

-H
-H

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From: Christian Petersen <[e-mail]>
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Hi,
I am having trouble with texturing.
I am draving my textures in Deluxe Paint IV, but when I try to map
it on a surface it also maps the black parts (the texture is curvy
and I cut it out as a brush which makes transparent edges around the
texture, the transparent parts turn black in lightwave).
Is there anyway to prevent this from happening so that I only will
get the correct texture mapping?

thanks
--
Cheers,
Christian Petersen
[e-mail]
http://www.daimi.aau.dk/~newton
'I will show you a place high on a desert plain' -U2

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KL Choi wrote:
>
> Is there a performance difference for LW5 running on Win95 vs. WinNT.  Anyone
> tried?
I use P166 on SOYO Intel FX Main Board i see improwment about 20% on
WinNt 3.51. When i change to new Mother Board Soyo Intel HX i can`t see
any difference

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I am currently looking for cool animated computer graphics of any
length (3d and/or 2d) with an environmental or rainforest theme
(ocean, forest, mountains, rivers, sky, etc.) to be used for an
audio/video title with good marketing potential.  If it is remotely
related and very kewl, ... I want to see it.
Deferred pay or joint-venture available.  Contact me by E-mail at
[e-mail].  Or contact SpitzTari Productions by phone at
[phone].


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From: "Glen A. Deibert" <[e-mail]>
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Matt,
You might want to check out Computer Shopper web site at
http://www.cshopper.com and check some of the back issues. Click on
search and type in 3D video cards and the search engine will bring back
all doc meeting your search.

Hope this helps,

Glen

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From: [e-mail](michael moncrief)
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   For Sale:
   Brand new, never used Intense 3d board from Intergraph. $2000.  For
   more details, feel free to e-mail or telephone.

                                          Nancy
                                          [e-mail]
                                          [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Joe Monahan)
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To be accurate, technology innovators gave us the knowledge to produce the
weapons you mention below. It was our political/military establishment
that produced and utilized these weapons. In my opinion, the
political/miliatry establishment isn't too far removed from deceptive
marketing practices and questionable business dealings.

And though you obviously don't, I do believe that the emerging dominance
of the entire computing environment by a single man/company is a big deal.
Especially when you consider what an abyssmal record that company has
demonstrated in the past - a history of imitation, corporate theft and
crushing the small competitor with its marketing might.

My arguements are not based on snobishness, but a desire to see people
understand the inferior products they are investing in and the nature of
the corporations that produce them. (Thats right, I even went along with
the boycott of companies doing business with South Africa a few years
back.)

Maybe we don't have the luxury to care about these things anymore. Maybe
we're too busy trying to make a buck or get our ego stroked, but as long
as I can afford to care, I will. Sorry if that offends you.

BTW, I don't consider myself or my arguements to be effete. And I have no
intention of "leaving you alone"....But you are free to ignore me if you
like.
Does that make a difference?

Joe Monahan


In article <[e-mail]>, Elliot Bain <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Joe Monahan wrote:
> >
> > In article <01bbd09f$929d9940$[e-mail]>, "Brad
> > Bowman" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > >Billy may not be an innovator but he is a marketing genius.
> >
> > This was sort of my original point. Gates is living proof that you can
> > fool most of the people most of the time. In my book, technology innovator
> > is a good thing - marketing genius is not. Your opionion may differ.
> >
> > Joe Monahan
> >
> > > --
>
> Yeah, technology inovators gave us the wonderful Atomic Bomb, and they
> gave us smart weapons, and they gave us biological weapons. They gave us
> gun powder, they gave us nitro glycerin. They even gave us the first
> computer, who's use was in targeting artillery shells.
>
> I'd say Gates was pretty harmless. Rich, but harmless.
>
> You're denigration of the average person, just goes to show what an
> effete computing snob you really are. People use this stuff to get their
> every-day work done and go on with their lives. It's just not as
> important as you think it is. You have my permission to use whatever OS
> you wish. Does that make a difference? Now, leave us alone.
>
> --
> Elliot Bain
> Laurell Creative Services
> 614.459.4404

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In article <56gcpt$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (BobaFett) wrote:
>You be there. Even if Lightwave 5.0 comes out, PC users will be running
>6., & you will be running a computer that is obsolite 6 years ago!!!
>
>
>NO Photoshop.
>NO Premiere.
>NO good Gfx cards.
>NO good addons.
>NO Standards.
>NO Good.
>
>Amiga. For the dumbass at heart.

As a PC user, and a once Amiga user, I can only say that you sir, have never
touched an Amiga ... It may be lacking in processor speed these days, but
as for the rest being obsolete, that is probably the worst statement i've ever
heard of. The only thing about them that *is* obsolete in that they were all
STANDARD. A lot of the programmers and project leaders for Win95 came from
the Amiga platform to the PC. The first morphing software was available on
Amiga, and of course, Lightwave was as well.

The only system on the face of the planet that doesn't have any 'standards' is
the PC systems. Mostly everything in Amigas and Macintoshes are proprietary,
and which is what mainly holds them back. If you standardize something, you
are immediately imposing limitations to a system with the current jumps in
technology. PCI is already a bottleneck 'standard' on Pentium class systems
already, and it was VESA just a year or so back!

I haven't used an Amiga for almost 4 years now, and the reason I jumped to a
PC system was for more speed and the applications .. I can see an end to
'Amiga' systems, but *never* to what they brought to the computer world, and
what they'll bring from now on from OS design to 3D Software. (Byte by Byte,
Impulse, etc all are companies now creating new 3D software on the PC
platform, very good software, and without Amiga, they would have never
happened.)

You go play with your Lightwave, and start calling yourself a 'dumbass'
because the entire interface, and feel is all Amiga. Why do you even USE
Lightwave if you hate the Amiga so much?

*blah*

Phil

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From: [e-mail] (Edward McLeod-Jones)
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Matthew Stratfold <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Thanks for your quick reply - this is exactly the sort of thing I need
>to hear. Do the Millenium and Mystique support Open GL, their blurb
>doesn't make anything of it?

>Matthew

I believe that the Millenium does support OpenGL, along with Intel's
3DR (used in Caligari's Truespace), however I'm not sure about the
Mystique.  Also, I'd be interested to find out if either the MGA
Millenium or the Imagine 128 Series 2 supports HEIDI (3D Studio MAX's
API).  Also, the Millenium seems to be getting a bit dated, does
anyone know if MGA has plans to release a replacement?

Edward McLeod-Jones
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From: Geoff Suttor <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: B5 stuff in *.lwb or *.3ds format
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Ninja or Sniper wrote:
>
> could someone E-mail me some B5 stuff in *.lwb or *.3ds format

Hummm, *.lwb , must be some new object format. ;)

Geoff Suttor
Animator.
Digital Video Productions Australia.
WK: mailto:[e-mail]
HM: mailto:[e-mail]
http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec

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Paul Bruggeman wrote:
>
> Walter (Jay) Turberville wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > Personally, I insert cards in my machines.  Its hard to get them to hit the
> > slot when I slap them in.  And I don't wait for lightning to shoot through the
> > ceiling to get them to boot either.  I think you are getting a little carried
> > away there.
>
>  If I had 150$/hr for each hour I've spent configuring/reconfiguring
> installing dll's reinstalling windows (ad nauseum) on our PC's,
> I could have bought 3 or 4 more SGI's.

LOL! Too ture, just form the machines I used to have at home,
I'd be able to afford an Onyx!

--
"Everyone dies, but not everyone really lives...."
-Mel Gibson, "Braveheart."
      ~~~>http://168.75.121.10/ben.html<~~~

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Er, excuse me guys, but shouldn't you be replying via email and not on
the newsgroup? It's beginning to look like those lame 'me too' threads
in the sex groups, heh heh.

Grundman
--
'I'm just the same as you, I just do the best I can;
     That's the ONLY answer . . . for an Ordinary Man'
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From: [e-mail] (J. Schlaghecke)
Subject: Re: Glowing Text
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Clegg <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have seen it done a million times by othe rpeople but I cant get the
>effiect to work fo me.  where you have a section of text "glow" or look
>like it is so there is a haze of light around it.. sorta like a hot
>piece of metal glowin and has a "cloud" fo light around it.

>Please help me figure out how to do this cool thing..

>Oh and how do I get a negative of a text segment lie so ther is a square
>but the text is cut out of it.  Please help me with this

>Thanks a 1000000
>--
>                           ----/\=Clegg=/\----
>                            [e-mail]
>                  "Everything under the sun is in tune,
>                   But the sun is eclipsed by the moon"
>                                      --Pink Floyd, DSOTM
>                    '96
Sound to me like you should start reading the manuals that come with
Lightwave.


J. Schlaghecke
Digitix Publishing Int'l


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BETA1.b (Greatly Improved)  AVI Sequence/Frame loader for Lightwave
Intel.  www.en.com/users/bforce

FREE DEMO-BETA!

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Atlantis) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Atlantis)
>Subject: Re: Performance of LW5 on Win95 or NT... no difference on my end.
>Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 13:24:45 GMT

>On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 11:39:15, [e-mail] (KL Choi) wrote:

>>Is there a performance difference for LW5 running on Win95 vs. WinNT.  Anyone
>>tried?

>I've run Lightwave v5 on my system under NT351 and now on Win95 and
>find that scenes render pretty much the same, sometimes only 1 second
>difference.  Nothing dramatic but EXTREMELY close in render times.
>I'm using a P166 w/96mb RAM and an ATI video card.

>Hope this helps.

>Bob

All the posted benchmarks I have seen show virtually identical render times.
There have been some anecdotal reports of NT being faster, but they have not
been substantiated with benchmark tests.  One of the contentions is that NT
memory management is superior and that demanding scenes are necessary to show
the difference.  So there is a possibility that NT is better for very complex
scenes, but that hasn't been substantiated.  If there is a difference, it is
subtle or uncommon in general usage.





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From: [e-mail](William Teegarden)
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>
>I highly doubt we will see any EIAS rendered stuff make it to the
movie
>screens in the new Star Wars movies.  Given the option of rendering
with
>EIAS or propriatory software+PRman+a bunch of custom shaders I would
bet
>on the latter.  Not to mention that rendering on a network of SGI
>Challenge servers is more enticing than rendering on a network of
>PowerMacs.
>
>It's far more likely that EIAS will be used primarily to render mock
ups
>and tests for the Star Wars movies, NOT for final output, much in the
>same way Lightwave was used in Jurrasic Park.

>
>Bryant Reif
>mailto:[e-mail]
>http://www.aiesec.org/~bryant


Actually, a guy I work with has a good friend up at ILM, and gave us
all the scoop on what's being done with what up there.

Basically, every artist working up there on it can use whatever package
they want.  Since John Knoll likes and uses EI, EI will get some screen
time.  Renderman will probably be used more than than anything else
however.

GT


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From: Paul Bruggeman <[e-mail]>
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Curt Gandy wrote:
>
> James L. Arthurs/Image Shoppe wrote:
> >
> > R >Hi, I was wondeering if anbody here know wich program is used for the
> > R >3 sequences inn Johnny Quest ?.. currently showing on Cartoon Network.
> > R >Is it LightWave.
> >
> >     I'd bet dollars to donuts it's mostly a MAC hideout with Electric
> > Image and AE running the show, judging from the folks named in the end
> > credits...
> >
> > Jim Arthurs
> > IMAGE SHOPPE
> > ______________
> > [e-mail]
> >
> > "Check out our new Timelapse Cloud CD-ROM..." at:
> > http://www.imageshoppe.com/imageshoppe
> >
> > __
> >
> > ___
> > * UniQWK v4.2 * The Windows Mail Reader
> >
> According to Nov. 1996 Digital Magic magazine, (an offshoot of Computer
> Graphics World) the 3D CG animation sequences are done by Buzz FX. They
> are using Softimage, Mental Ray and Eddie using keyframe techniques for
> tweaking characters but the main characters are animated by a service
> bureau called The House of Moves (Venice, CA) using Oxford Metrics Vicon
> motion capture system. Check out the article because it highlights other
> TV shows using CG characters and debates keyframing vs motion capture.
>
> Curt Gandy
> World In Motion Productions
> [e-mail]

 I worked on it a bit for them, and the article is correct as far as I
saw. The Montreal office did some of the earlier shows and the open (?)
and the S. Monica office (et al) is doing others. The motion capture
looks like motion capture. The keyframe stuff looks better. IMHO.
 Paul
  [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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>And to all you NT lovers, feel free to say what you think of the new O2
>once you've seen one in action.

>Please don't respond to mere marketing hype that could mean nothing,
>or everything.

>It just perpetuates a contest of ignorance.
>--
>"Everyone dies, but not everyone really lives...."
>-Mel Gibson, "Braveheart."
>      ~~~>http://168.75.121.10/ben.html<~~~


You are right.  This is why I ignored the SGI "We don't want to burst your
bubble" ad.  Now there is a great example of hype.


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From: [e-mail] (James Kewageshig)
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Subject: Re: How to remove a plugin from LW5 modeler or renderer?
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[e-mail] (KL Choi) wrote:

>Pls help on the plugin removal subject.  Thx.

Go to either the lw.cfg or lwm.cfg file and remove the line in the plugin
section that contains the plugin to remove.

James


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I wonder if it is somehow possible to use a program like
Meshpaint or Detailer for LW-objects. How is texturing
handled and saved? How does LW render such an object?
Are there any Plugs like Meshpaint or Detailer for LW?
Please help me out. Thanx. Mig 23.

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From: Curt Gandy <[e-mail]>
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Joseph Maas wrote:
>
> I have been using Strata Studio Pro for years and it just does not cut
> it. I need a good, fast, clean, commercial package to knock out
> everything from PhotoRealistic stills for print media to animations for
> video and cd-rom. We mostly do corporate presentation work and about 10%
> character animation work.
> Would you suggest that I go with Electric Image Brodcast and FormZ OR
> the upcoming Mac version of Lightwave 3d and stick with Mac (probably
> upgrade to dual processor SuperMac along the way). OR OR OR haul off and
> get a Windows NT system and go with Studio MAX.
>
> What would you do?

Why go with 3D Studio MAX when it will cost you $3500 plus $1000 for
Character Studio plus more $$ for lens flare plugins and everything
else? Lightwave can be had for street price $1200 and by now you're
aware of the work that has been done with it in TV, film, etc. MAX does
have volumetric lighting and particles and some other nice features but
at such a great cost. I use NT and I find it extremely stable and the
images I create work on multiple platforms so there's no restriction
there. NT is hot and there is a bunch of development for it. I see Mac
keeping it's ground in desktop publishing and graphic design but NT is
surely shaping up to be an animation king. Of course, NEVER count out
SGI!

If you've already invested in lots of other software, then I'd stick
with Mac and upgrade CPU's and ram and buy Lightwave. EI is very good
but I think the broadcast version costs about $2500 and the full version
costs $7500. I'm not sure this helps but don't throw away the money
you've already invested in equipment. With the price of PC's dropping
and ram prices at rock-bottom, you can always buy an NT machine soon and
work in both worlds. Many Mac-based studios are doing just that and
authoring on NT machines. You've got a hard decision but one many
studios are facing with Mac gear. Weigh your options and dollars and the
answer will present itself in short order.

Curt Gandy
World In Motion Productions
[e-mail]

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Joseph Maas wrote:
>
> I have been using Strata Studio Pro for years and it just does not
> cut it. I need a good, fast, clean, commercial package to knock out
> everything from PhotoRealistic stills for print media to animations
> for video and cd-rom. We mostly do corporate presentation work and
> about 10% character animation work.
> Would you suggest that I go with Electric Image Brodcast and FormZ
> OR the upcoming Mac version of Lightwave 3d and stick with Mac
> (probably upgrade to dual processor SuperMac along the way). OR OR
> OR haul off and get a Windows NT system and go with Studio MAX.
>
> What would you do?


Joseph,
Tests show ElectricImage renders 6 times faster than 3dStudio and 10
times faster than Lightwave. EI will release it's own modeler very
shortly and you won't need FormZ anymore. Also, they almost have the
radiosity renderer ready for public consumption. They keep saying that
there might be something under the Christmas tree. Very Fast! 10sec
preview renders and 20 minute full renders using radiosity!

Contact EI and ask for a demo copy of ElectricImage to try-out. They'll
send you the CD for free. I've never had better service than from EI.

Also you can subscribe to the EI mail list at:
<http://www.sloangroup.com/ei-list/>
Lots of EI "users" happy to answer any questions you might have.

Hope this helps,
--
Kenneth A. Carter
Creative Director                                        916.334.8385
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|> Monthly fees:  $25 per month for 25 megs of space and 2,000 hits per
|> month on your site.
|>
|> Added optional expenses:  For each meg over the 25 mentioned above, the
|> fee is $5 dollars.  For more hits per month, you can pay an extra $5 per
|> 1,000 hits.

how on earth do you guarentee a set number of 'hits' like this?

--
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From: [e-mail] (BobaFett)
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You be there. Even if Lightwave 5.0 comes out, PC users will be running
6., & you will be running a computer that is obsolite 6 years ago!!!


NO Photoshop.
NO Premiere.
NO good Gfx cards.
NO good addons.
NO Standards.
NO Good.

Amiga. For the dumbass at heart.



In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Jon Carroll wrote:
>
>> EVERYONE who is still using Lightwave on the Amiga, and wants to see
new
>> versions of it, whether it be PPC or 68k, please drop a note to
>> Brad Peebler
>> Production Manager, NewTek
>> [e-mail]
>>
>> -Jon Carroll
>
>Better still, those PC Lightwave users who wish to use more powerful
>Amigas AGAIN, tell Newtek. If the power is there on an Amiga type OS,
>when this PC of mine is out of date (approx. 6 months to a year!),
>at a decent price, I'll be there. (if Lightwave is!)
>
>Geoff Suttor
>Animator.
>Digital Video Productions Australia.
>WK: mailto:[e-mail]
>HM: mailto:[e-mail]
>http://www.powerup.com.au/~gefbec


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From: Joseph Maas <[e-mail]>
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I have been using Strata Studio Pro for years and it just does not cut
it. I need a good, fast, clean, commercial package to knock out
everything from PhotoRealistic stills for print media to animations for
video and cd-rom. We mostly do corporate presentation work and about 10%
character animation work.
Would you suggest that I go with Electric Image Brodcast and FormZ OR
the upcoming Mac version of Lightwave 3d and stick with Mac (probably
upgrade to dual processor SuperMac along the way). OR OR OR haul off and
get a Windows NT system and go with Studio MAX.

What would you do?

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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Sorrels)
Subject: New brick and lunar shader plugins: FREE!
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Well now that a few dozen people seem to be selling or distributing
versions of the brick and lunar textures I figured the one's I wrote
about 8 months ago just don't really have a whole lot of value as
products, so I've decided to give them away.

They are basically straight conversions from the book Texturing and
Modeling A Procedural Approach.  Most of the parameters can be adjusted
and they will save in your scene file.  They aren't magic but they do a
fair job.  I'm sure the commercial versions are much more powerful.  In
any case you can find the new brkmoon.p plugin for Intel on my LightWave
plugin page:

http://www.pontari.com/pontari/lightwave

There are also a few other goodies there if you haven't been recently so
check it out.

As always comments can be sent to me either here or at
[e-mail] (The Pontari ISP doesn't have a great news setup so
I use my own email account).



Matthew Sorrels   [e-mail], [e-mail]
Pontari Productions  (http://www.pontari.com/pontari)



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From: "Hervé" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: MAKE BIG MONEY
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Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life.

 The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months.
 think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more.
 That's ... because it WORKS !  So I thought, all those new users might
 make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago.  Besides,
 whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on
 coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted.
 Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from
 AOL, Netcom, etc. they will join in and make it work for you.

 Well, two weeks later, I began recieving bucks in the mail!  I couldn't
 believe it! Not just a little, I mean big bucks!  At first only a few
 hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand, then BOOM. By
 the end of the fourth week, I had recieved nearly $47,000.00. It came
 from all over the world. And every bit of it perfectly legal and on the
 up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough
 left over for a nice vacation for me and my family.

 Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well.  Markus
 Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made
 $53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only
 $17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they
 say they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a
 similar chance with $5 of my own bucks. Not a big chance, I admit--but
 one with incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in
 this system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet
 their $5 netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe,
 legal, completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps:

STEP 1.

Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces
of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In
this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for
a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill, money order, or bank note inside
each paper, and mail them by standard U. S. Mail to the following five
addresses:

 1-  Natalie Jansen
     Lancveldlaan 18
     5671 CN Nuenen
     Holland

 2-  Chad Collier
     2785 Cold Springs Rd. #49
     Placerville, CA  95667

 3-  Steve Boltinghouse
     1009 Bird St.
     Hannibal, MO  63401

 4-  David Pignolet
     557 Dutton Rd
     Sudbury Ma. 01776

 5- Herve Memain
     34 rue de bagnolet
     75020 Paris, France

STEP 2.

    Now remove the top name from the list, and move the
    other names up.This way, #5 becomes #4 and so on.
    Put your name in as the fifth one on the list.


STEP 3.

    Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at
    least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time.
    Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember
    the more groups you post to, the more people will see your
    article and send you cash!


STEP 4.

    You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing
    returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new
    and huge. There is no way you can lose.

    Now here is how and why this system works:

    Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses.
    Yes, thats right,only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or
    money orders, but real cash with your name at #5.

    Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250
    additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On
    average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at
    #4,....$50.00 in your pocket!

    Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your
    name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500.
    They make 250 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000
    postings=5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash!

    Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at
    #1 and you get a return of $60,000 before your name drops off
    the list.And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250
    postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000.

    From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list,
    you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again.

        The end result depends on you. You must follow through
        and repost this article everywhere you can think of.
        The more  postings you  make, the more cash ends up in
        your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass up!!!

    So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it
    works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all
    day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net
    every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper.
    So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play
    fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out
    right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep
    an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is
    playing fairly. You know where your name should be.

    If you're really not sure or still think this can't be
    for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it
    along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see
    what happens.


    REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.YOU DON'T
    NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS!
    GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL
    WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH!

*** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages
with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people
already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this
and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent
the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had
over $10,000!

        TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!!  :o) !!!!!!!!!!



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From: [e-mail] (Michael C. Ling)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mac, Electric Image Brodcast or Lightwave 3d.
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"Kenneth A. Carter" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Tests show ElectricImage renders 6 times faster than 3dStudio and 10
>times faster than Lightwave. EI will release it's own modeler very

How was that figure determined? I don't think the software are
available on the same platform. Even small changes in hardware can
affect performance on the same platform machine, let alone different
platforms and different CPUs.


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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Stuart
Ferguson) writes:

>This is a problem with the dongle.  Make sure the hardware key
>is firmly seated and that the parallel port is operating
>correctly.  You might also try re-installing the software and
>Sentinal drivers.  If this all fails you may need to return your
>dongle to NewTek for reprogramming.
>--
>    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
>        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
>         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"
>
>

Don't you believe him. This is a simple lack of RAM. Throw some more
hardware at the problem and you'll be fine.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
 [e-mail] -- The Future Ain't Here Yet Design Studio
 Pushing Pixels for a Better Tomorrow
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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From: [e-mail] (Eric Kornblum)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mac, Electric Image Brodcast or Lightwave 3d.
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

>I have been using Strata Studio Pro for years and it just does not cut
>it. I need a good, fast, clean, commercial package to knock out
>everything from PhotoRealistic stills for print media to animations for
>video and cd-rom. We mostly do corporate presentation work and about 10%
>character animation work.
>Would you suggest that I go with Electric Image Brodcast and FormZ OR
>the upcoming Mac version of Lightwave 3d and stick with Mac (probably
>upgrade to dual processor SuperMac along the way). OR OR OR haul off and
>get a Windows NT system and go with Studio MAX.
>
>What would you do?

Personally, I'm a Mac-Head, so I'd definitely have to stick with the Mac
(plus it does have a lot of great audio/video/graphics apps).

EI is a great package and they now have a modeler, so you don't need to
buy FormZ, but it's still about $3k. And the renderer for EI is absolutely
awesome. Screaming fast and absolutely beautiful results. If you haven't
seen it in action, go to MacWorld Expo or NAB or some other show like that
and have them demo it for you. Or call them and have them point you to a
nearby rep that can show it to you. It's definitely worth the look.

And obviously LightWave is a great package. It's speed/stability on the
Mac will remain to be seen until it's released. But it's about half the
cost.

Also, I don't know if it will cut it, but Strata's coming out with a
totally new version (not an update, but rather a total rewrite), and if
this is comparable with LW or EI, you'll probably be able to get it for a
lot less since you've already got SSP.

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>
>
> You be there. Even if Lightwave 5.0 comes out, PC users will be running
> 6., & you will be running a computer that is obsolite 6 years ago!!!
>
>
> NO Photoshop.
> NO Premiere.
> NO good Gfx cards.
> NO good addons.
> NO Standards.
> NO Good.
>
> Amiga. For the dumbass at heart.

AND don't forget the MOST important point:
   NO assholes like this guy who dont have a fucking clue what they are talking about!



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i recommend rendering to image sequence and making an avi later so you can
experiment with whatever works best.  if you archive the image sequence,
you can convert it to whatever you want later (mpeg, smacker, mov, avi,
whatever)

Valeri <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<01bbd238$85972fa0$0100007f@val>...
> Can Anyone help me?
> If i render my animation to AVI file,what  video compression codex is
> better (I have Indeo3.2;Cinepac;Intel VideoInteractive;Vdolive;Micrisoft
> Video) for best qualitat AVI?
> And what is (from qualitat) better for output to video tape:if I render
> uncompressed AVI 32 direct in LightWave and record it to tape; or I
render
> Image-Sequence (for example .tga),load it in Premiere,compile in Premiere
> uncompressed 32-AVI,and record id to tape?
> For any suggestions thank you very much!
> Valeri.
>

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From: [e-mail] (Dave Paige)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Mac, Electric Image Brodcast or Lightwave 3d.
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:22:41 GMT
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"Kenneth A. Carter" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Joseph,
>Tests show ElectricImage renders 6 times faster than 3dStudio and 10
>times faster than Lightwave. EI will release it's own modeler very
>shortly and you won't need FormZ anymore. Also, they almost have the
>radiosity renderer ready for public consumption. They keep saying that
>there might be something under the Christmas tree. Very Fast! 10sec
>preview renders and 20 minute full renders using radiosity!
>
What tests? Using what machines? Sheesh.

Because of differences in program design one can never be sure that
you've got identical objecs, scenes, and settings to even run a valid
test. Not to mention that this guy doesn't even mention the nature of
these 'tests'. It is very unlikely that this guy or anyone else has
enough knowledge of each of these three programs to come up with a
valid test.

The vast majority of EI's competitors have had modelers for years.

Radiosity is not likely to be fast enough in the near future to be
practicle for animation other than 'walk- throughs' where only the
camera's view point changes from frame to frame. "20 minute full
renders", of what?

The point of all this is, while I'm a Lightwave user and fan, and
don't claim to be an expert at any other 3D application, I recognize
that there are several good alternitives out there. They all have
there strengths and weaknesses. Most of them can produce good results
in the hands of a talented animator. Look for programs that are
popular in the areas of CGI production that interest you.

Dave Paige
[e-mail]
http://www.access.digex.net/~davep

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can anyone help!
I need a detailed mesh that can be used with 3d Studio r3 of a
space shuttle's external fuel tank for a project I'm working on.
please Email me or post to alt.3d.studio
 Any help would be appreciated.

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Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:10:33 -0800
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Wilko Ekelschot wrote:
>
> I'm rather new on using lightwave.
> can anyone tell me how to make glass???
> Thanx.
> --
> Wilko Ekelschot & Bea Aubri
> Homepage: http://xs4all.nl/~wilbe
> Email    : [e-mail]

Hi. To make some realistic looking glass U should try for
example the following settings.
Let's assume you first have the original settings.
-Then choose just any color that you like.
-Specular Level between 70% and 100%.
-Glossiness Low or Medium.
-Reflectivity at about 20% to 40%.
-Transparency between 60% and 100%.
-Opaque
-Edge Treshold between 0.5 and 0.7
-Double Sided
-Try using a refractive index from 1.4 to 1.6. You will
 however only see a result when rendering with refraction
 enabled.
Just try around with these settings. I hope they help you.
    Mig 23.

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From: David Nouls <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: New SGI O2 - here we go again
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 16:40:14 +0100
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Eric D. Wiesen wrote:

>         To be honest, I don't really understand the argument that the
> advantage of O2 is some future performance level. I'm sure that some
> extra performance can be gained by specifically optimizing software
> for the O2 (although having to write new versions of software for a
> specific machine is quite a step backwards if you ask me. And yes,
> this is a rewrite of very basic code, not a simple recompile), but
> other than that the argument falls flat on its face.

You obviously have never used SGI machines. There are many reasons why
the O2 is a great product.

First, it's UMA is great. This let's me do things that even our Onyx
with REII has problems with.

We can use our development software and tools we created on this machine
without problems.

The toolkits from SGI (like Performer) use the extra features of the SGI
accelerators so we don't really need to write O2 specific code since we
don't have to go this low level.

Most importantly, up till now we needed to use the a highend system like
the Onyx with RE. With the O2 we have a capable machine that we can use
to develop. I even can take an O2 home for further work. That's the gap
that SGI wanted to close since the Indy and even the Indigo machines
couldn't give us these options.

Perhaps if all the toolkits were converted to NT we might consider other
options. But then there are all the tools we developed for Irix. It
would cost too much time and money.

/)avid
--
( I had a .sig once, but a little green man beat me up and took it.)

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From: [e-mail] (Ziggy Stardust)
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"CISci Net.Cafe Patron" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Ian Griffiths wrote:


>If you dont have a diamond card then I apologise.  If it is a Genesis
>problem then its a high priority problem as far as I'm concerned. I'll
>have a look at it as soon as I get back.

>spike

    Add the same problem using the generic S3 drivers for NT4.0 too...

                Ziggy


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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Terrain for a FLYTHROUGH
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:00:57 -0500
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Tim Nassauer wrote:

> I may be wrong about this, but I think WCS uses z-buffering information
> based on a *fixed camera* to allow 3D objects to interact properly with
> an essentialy flat landscape image. You can make an exceptional looking
> landscape, but I don't think there's a way to move the Layout camera
> through it. And I don't think WCS2 camera motions can be exported to
> Layout. If I'm wrong abut this, I'll go buy WCS2 in a heartbeat.

Get out your wallet.  WCS2 can create LW scene files with camera motion,
zoom envelope, a sun light with orientation, color and level, fog, field
rendering settings and references to stand-in landscape objects in LWOB
format.  And the Z-buffer plug-in is intended for a *moving* camera.

- Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew


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From: "Will Mendez" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Johnny Quest ?
Date: 15 Nov 1996 18:02:15 GMT
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In this month Digital Magic (sup to CGW) it states that they use Softimage
for Johnny Quest.

Will Mendez

[e-mail] wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> > Hi, I was wondeering if anbody here know wich program is used for the
> >3 sequences inn Johnny Quest ?.. currently showing on Cartoon Network.
> >Is it LightWave.
>
> EI is showing stills from it in their ads, but I don't know for sure.
> --Brian
> ========   http://members.aol.com/virtualbri/   =======
> == Home of the LightWave 3D Internet Resource Lists  ==
> =============  100 hits a day and growing  =============
> ============  All you gotta do is ask....  ============
>
>

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From: "Wayne S. Williams" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Meshpaint3D4LW?
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:00:12 +0000
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To: Miguel Marn <[e-mail]>

Miguel Marn wrote:
>
> I wonder if it is somehow possible to use a program like
> Meshpaint or Detailer for LW-objects. How is texturing
> handled and saved? How does LW render such an object?
> Are there any Plugs like Meshpaint or Detailer for LW?
> Please help me out. Thanx. Mig 23.

Hi Miguel,

   I have a demo version that I'm running on my Dec Alpha.  You call up
the interface and it loads up a set of brushes, (which you can add your
own too).   Then you call up the object that you want to work on, and
set an image size for the texture.  At this point you have 2 windows,
one with the 3D representation  which can be rotated and translated in
any direction, and another window that is the texture image that your
creating.  From here you can start painting directly on the 3D object or
move over to the 2D texture and paint there.  I just bounced back and
forth from the object to the texture until I got what I wanted.  It's a
little tricky painting on the texture, because it's being translated to
the 3D object, and obviously if it's being applied around a 3D object,
it's not going to look normal on the texture.  It has "undo", so you can
keep trying.
   The demo version won't let you save out the textures, so I have to
assume from here. You call up the texture you created in Meshpaint and
do a cylindrical wrap onto your object.  Because you painted on the
stretch and distortion when the map was being created, it should map on
exactly like you wanted.

   Last I heard, they were also adding the ability to create
displacement maps, which would be very interesting.

   The cost is a little steep to me at $595 (Alpha version), but it's on
my wish list.


   3D Wayne / CyLum 3D Imaging
___________________________________________________
   http://www.gate.net/~dddwayne

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From: Ernie Wright <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: New QV, other stuff
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:15:35 -0500
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Elliot Bain asked:

> Since the December issue of LWPro will probably never see the light of
> waves, is there anywhere else we can read your article on DOF?

That was December of 1994.  The article was included in the compilation
book.

- Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew



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Subject: Re: New QV, other stuff
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The Alpha lwwf2avi is now up to date and available.

My ISP appears to be going through changes at the moment (my hit counts
have turned into random number generators, and ftp access is occasionally
flaky), so if you have trouble, wait a little while and try again.

- Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew



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From: "M.Lavery" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Can`t save  avi. files
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:26:03 GMT
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Brad Ruekberg   <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<56ebsg$[e-mail]>...
> >On 6 Nov 1996 04:55:16 GMT, "Melvyn Garland"
<[e-mail]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>Please can somebody help me to save avi. scenes.  I have tried
everything
> I
> >>can think of.  Once I have specified where to save a scence it renders
ok
> >>but then I can not find it.  If I save a scence under HIIP-AVI32 I get
a
> >>message:-
> >>
> >>Error starting program
> >>
> >>The AVIFIL32.DLL file is linked to missing export NTDLL.DLL:memmove
> >>
> >>Could this be the problem????
> >>
> >>I would appreciate any ideas please
> >>
> Hi Mel
>
> I assume you are using Win95 or NT. I just upgraded to 95 and installed
the
> 95 version of Lightwave 4.0 and I too get the same error! I used to use
LW
> on Win 3.1 and it saved .avi files with no problem. But now when
renderering
> is finished there is no .avi file.

Just copy the original AVIFIL32.DLL from your Windows95 carb file, over the
one Lightwave 4 installed.


--
Malcolm Lavery
VISIBLE HORIZON GRAPHICS
[e-mail]
http://www.pixelfx.demon.co.uk

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From: [e-mail](William Teegarden)
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Subject: Re: New SGI O2 : how much?
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>
>   BTW, What software is D2 using for compositing and blue screen?  I
>don't know of a hardcore high end solution that isn't still a beta for
>NT?  There are some arenas where an SGI or high end MAC make sense.


DD uses it's own in house proprietary package called Nuke.

GT


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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
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Subject: Re: Error Message Modeler 5
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:05:28 GMT
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+-- [e-mail] (15 Nov 1996 12:20:43 GMT):
| In article <>, [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) writes:
| >This is a problem with the dongle.  Make sure the hardware key
| >is firmly seated and that the parallel port is operating
| >correctly.  You might also try re-installing the software and
|
| Don't you believe him. This is a simple lack of RAM. Throw some more
| hardware at the problem and you'll be fine.

While more RAM is always good, it will not fix this particular
problem.  I should know -- I wrote the program.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: John Foust <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: How to import from 3D Studio to LW?
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:03:08 -0600
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CC: KL Choi <[e-mail]>

Dave Paige wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (KL Choi) wrote:
>
> >Can some one please post the steps to import 3D Studio files to Lightwave?
> >Seems that cannot find the function in LW4.0, is it on LW5.0 ?
>
> You need to install a Modeler plugin called TRAN3D.P.
...
> You should now be able to
> load 3D studio models just as you would Lightwave models.

My company makes InterChange, a program that translates between
more than fifty 3D file formats, including 3DS and LightWave
objects and scenes.  The advantage of using InterChange is that
you can translate a 3DS scene to a LightWave scene.  With TRAN3D.P,
you get a single, non-hierarchical blob.  With InterChange,
you get separate sub-objects with the proper centers of rotation,
object names, etc.

- John Foust

Syndesis Corporation
235 South Main Street
Jefferson, WI 53549
[phone]
[phone] FAX
[e-mail]
http://www.threedee.com

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From: Paul Muns <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Macros Help in Modeler
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 12:38:19 -0800
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I am new to LW5 and have been working through the Tutorials on modeler
and got to page 405, where #2 says to "Select the macro called Center
from the Objects/Custom pop-up".  When I do that there is a "none" in
every button.

I checked to see where to Load (I assumed this is like loading the
Images in before using them). I tried Loading one of the Plugins (*.p),
but it didn't work.  Reading in the Reference Manual, page 363, I am
supposed to have a "Configure List" option and it doesn't appear it be
available in Modeler that I can find...there is no choice like that in
Custom/Options.  I have Ver. 5.0m...is this a beta version that has some
parts left out?  I have found the Plugin dir on the CD, but have no way
of using any...so far.

Help!

-Paul


I checked to see where to load (I assumed this is lik

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From: Ines Gonzalez <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Amiga vs. PPro200
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:02:11 -0800
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What a stupid subject line, huh?  Maybe not.  I worked with PCs in my
company's MIS department as network administrator for 2 years.  I have
been using an Amiga in one form or another (currently an
040/Toaster/Flyer) for 9 years.  As a lightwave user, I need the
rendering power of a Pentium so I finally bought a PPro
200Mhz/64meg/Adaptec 2940UW/Diamond Stealth PCI blah blah blah.  The Pro
SMOKED the Amiga (no surprise), but multitasking IS A JOKE!  I couldn't
believe that this NT computing monster couldn't keep up with my Amiga in
switching tasks, flipping screens (pc users say 'what's that?'), and
general interface speed.  Add to that fact that it takes about a minute
to get to NT from cold boot and about 25 sec to get to AmigaDOS.  So the
bottom line is: use the tools appropriate for the job.  In my case, the
pentium (for rendering and single applications at a time), networked
to the Amiga for video/audio/image processing
 (oh and arexx to tie it all together).  Hey,
maybe I'm using an "extinct" computer, but it's STILL earning me money.
Hell, I guess they just don't make 'em like they used to.

I must admit:
NT 4.0 sure does look pretty, though
(for taking up 80megs on my hard drive, it better!).

Thanks for your time.

Chris Gonzalez
Lightwave user since ver. 1.0 (circa *1992*)

PS. Newtek, has Bill Gates fooled you too?

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Subject: Re: Lightwave "shading language" possable?
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> As a sort of side note to this discussion, I was speaking with someone
> from Alias|Wavefront yesterday and he told me that Maya, the new version
> of Alias PowerAnimator will "import" renderman shaders and compile them
> into Maya shaders and that they would look identical.
>
> I'm interested in seeing this! Wouldn't it be great if LW, and other
> programs, took this approach so that developers could create R-Man shaders
> and then sell them to users of lots of different programs & renderers.
>
> -H
> -H

  I read somewhere about 3DSMax having a plugin that outputs scenes to
RIB format.  That might be good for LW.  But PIXAR really really doesn't
want renderman to be used on PCs or any windows based operating system,
so it's probably really difficult to make LW any kind of renerman
compatability.

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From: [e-mail] (me)
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Subject: Re: 3D ARTISTS wanted!!!!
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:49:49 GMT
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grundman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Er, excuse me guys, but shouldn't you be replying via email and not on
>the newsgroup? It's beginning to look like those lame 'me too' threads
>in the sex groups, heh heh.
>
>Grundman

Er, umm.... the guy didn't leave an email so the newsgroup was the
only way.  Also, from reading how many responses, the original poster
didn't know what he was doing, or it was a ploy.

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From: John Warren <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Lightwave "shading language" possable?
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 18:16:10 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:
>   I read somewhere about 3DSMax having a plugin that outputs scenes to
> RIB format.  That might be good for LW.  But PIXAR really really doesn't
> want renderman to be used on PCs or any windows based operating system,
> so it's probably really difficult to make LW any kind of renerman
> compatability.

Renderman is 2 things:

    * An actual rendering program named "Photorealistic Renderman"
    * A specification for 3D Scenes Descriptions (where to place
      lights, use of fog, object descriptions, transformations,
      etc. -- it's up to the renderer to support this format, or
      the 3D modeler/layout package to read/write this format)

Obviously, the program Photorealistic Renderman is commercial software
and will only exist on platforms that Pixar likes (or is willing to
support). This doesn't preclude, however, *anyone* from writing their
own renderer or plug-ins to support the Renderman Specification (which
is very openly available from Pixar). In fact, the Renderman
Specification
was originally intended to be the "postscript" of 3D (so that 3D
programs
could talk to each other via the RIB format).

Hence, it isn't "really difficult to make LW any kind of renerman[sic]
compatibility". Rather, it would be very easy to do if someone wanted
to do it (or had the time).

-John Warren
 The Advanced Computing Center for the Arts & Design
 [e-mail]

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From: Mateusz Boczar <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Tomahawk site...
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Looking for login and password to tomahawk.welch.jhu.edu ftp site...

or maybe it isn't opened??

Please help, /\/\ateo

[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Richard)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Matt,
> You might want to check out Computer Shopper web site at
> http://www.cshopper.com and check some of the back issues. Click on
> search and type in 3D video cards and the search engine will bring back
> all doc meeting your search.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Glen

Good idea, Also check out Ziff Davis's site  www.zdnet.com. you can
search a whole bunch of mags from there.

One the mags had a round up of openGL cards and Matrox's
openGL drivers were broken. Don't know if they ever got fixed or not,
but the web is the place to check.

If you want real openGL performance you'll have to spend some bucks
and buy enough VRAM to support all of the buffers (Z, texture, etc.)

My impression of DirectX, MMX etc. is a cost effective way to support
3d for games and possiblly VRML (would explain Caligari's interest).
But I'm just guessing on that.

OpenGL is more for lightwave where you need lots-o-polys and textures.

Cheers.

<<<<=======================================================================
    Richard Norman                              [e-mail]
      AMIGA --- Amazing Multitasking Interactive Graphics & Animation
          Amiga Networking FAQ   /pub/aminet/docs/help/anetfaq.lzh
                          Inputs appreciated!
=======================================================================>>>>

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From: [e-mail] (me)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave 5.0 - Educational Discount - Limitations?
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[e-mail] (Brian Ross) wrote:

>
>I believe that a motivation behind educational discounts to students
>is that software developers will reap the rewards of nurturing a
>workforce experienced and proficient in the use of their products.
>The employers of these newly hired people will have to purchase the
>software, and there's where the profits will reside.
>
Not unless the student feels confident in his/her abilities and plans
to freelance, in which case, by reading responses, he/she would have
to buy an additional copy of the same version (which by the way, they
wouldn't have money thanks to escalating student loans) just to start
freelancing.

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From: Gregg Lukomski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Attn NewTek: Control of SGI LW?
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:27:42 -0800
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I made some calls today to both Xaos Tools and NewTek regarding the
'transition' of SGI Lightwave from Xaos Tools back to NewTek.  I'm
a bit concerned about the quality of support and the overall effect that
NewTek marketing/support is going to have on LW SGI.  I've long been an
admirer of Xaos' policies and general help, and I didn't receive this
change as good news.

  I realize that the SGI version is in much the same boat as Mips/NT
and Amiga LW as far as timeliness of ports and the low number of
installed
seats, however under Xaos, this wasn't felt as the support was always
there when needed.  For this extra support, I was willing to put up with
the artificially inflated costs.

  Compiled with information from both parties, it appears that the
product has already changed hands (this from Xaos, NewTek was unsure
exactly *when* the change would happen, but thats par for he course).
For right now, Xaos is handling encryption keys until NewTek gets up
and running with an internal encryption officer.

  With the coming of LW 5.0 for SGI, which I had eagerly awaited,
I am still unaware of just what it is going to take financially
to stay current.  The NewTek customer support rep mentioned a
possible $1500 upgrade cost, and then added that the plans
are still changing on a daily basis, with no final decision made.
(This shouldn't affect those under Xaos support contracts, as they
should receive a free upgrade to 5.0 as per the orignial contract
agreements.)  I'd personally like an answer to this question
soon to say the least!  Xaos support was $500/year if purchased
at the time of the original software license purchase, $1000
if you decided to get it at a later date, but either way it was
substantially cheaper than the numbers tossed about by NewTek
customer support!  Is LW SGI going to be on an a-la-carte
upgrade basis the same as Win/NT if we do see a LW 6.0 SGI,
or will a support program be added?  Is there a decided on
figure for 5.0?

   I also have a license key transfer looming on the horizon
as an offshoot of a machine upgrade.  What kind of policy
is NewTek going to put into place regarding such services?
Unfortunately, as this is only a few weeks off, I believe it
is going to take place during the licnese key chaos-period.
(I guess the pun is appropriate.)

   I would expect these decisions to be 'up in the air' for
a *planned* change of hands, but according to Xaos, this is
already a completed transaction with NewTek in the driver's
seat.  I'd jsut like to know exactly where NewTek has
decided to take us...  If that $1500 is accurate, plus whatever
support servies will cost, Softimage is really looking a lot more
cost effective, even with M$ piloting that vehicle.

--
Gregg Lukomski
Orlando, Florida
[e-mail]

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From: "Wayne S. Williams" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: textures
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:01:09 +0000
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To: Christian Petersen <[e-mail]>

Christian Petersen wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I am having trouble with texturing.
> I am draving my textures in Deluxe Paint IV, but when I try to map
> it on a surface it also maps the black parts (the texture is curvy
> and I cut it out as a brush which makes transparent edges around the
> texture, the transparent parts turn black in lightwave).
> Is there anyway to prevent this from happening so that I only will
> get the correct texture mapping?


Hi Christian,

You need to make a "Clip Map".
To do this, take the same image in DPaint, and everything that you want
to show up on the object, make white.  Everything that you don't want to
show up, make black.  Save this out as an image called MyMatte.iff.
Since you used the same exact image for your full color image and this
new black and white image (matte), they will match perfectly when you
apply them to your object.  Go into the Objects/Clip Map panel, and call
up the name of the matte image you created.  Use the same values you
used to set up the full color map, for your clip map (the black and
white matte image).  Now when you render the frame, you should see the
object cut out the way you wanted.

If this isn't clear, let me know and we'll try again.

Hope this is what you wanted!

     3D Wayne / CyLum 3D Imaging
 _______________________________________________________
     http://www.gate.net/~dddwayne

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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Win95/LW4 Memory Questions...(+) Shadowmaps
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My questions are fairly simple.  I am one of those who went from 3D-Studio
to Truespace to Lightwave.  I have a 486 dx4/120 with 24 Megs of ram.
When I load Lightwave 4 into Windows 95, Layout reports that only about 3
Megs of RAM remain.  When I try using Windows for Workgroups with Win32s,
I have a total of 17 Meg of ram remaining.  Does anyone know how to reduce
the amount of RAM Windows 95 is munching, and perhaps convert it to a page
file?

My second question is in reference to 3D-Studio Shadow Mapping as compared
to that in Lightwave.  I create primarily architectural walkthroughs for
3D projects, and when in 3D-Studio, if you assign a shadow map to a
spotlight, it can very quickly figure out the maps and then hold on to
them for any following frames where shadow-casting objects do not move.
This way, the program does not have to compute a shadow map for each
frame.  Does a similar feature exist for Lightwave?

I appreciate your attention.

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: WANTED: Lightwave 4.0 Commercial Version
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Hi,

    I am looking for a used copy of Lightwave 4.0, commercial version.
Please reply via e-mail.

Thanks,

Neil


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From: "ebernard" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Need help to save images! Thanx!
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Hye!

I can't save images in: jpg, bmp, pict, tga, ..... I only can save in iff
(24 bits).
A sreen appears and say:

"Open failed Images\xxxx001.jpg
Module JPEG
HIIP ERROR #134217728,2
(Couldn't read error files)

Thanks to you!

Cu soon!

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Subject: Re: 3D ARTISTS wanted!!!!
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Shadow wrote:
>
> On Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:37:34 -0800, Philip Page <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> >G.O.T wrote:
> >>
> >> I am looking for professional 3D artist who wants to work on
> >> a commission basis on a new web site project.
> >>
> >> Extras: Free Homepage, E-Mail account, ftp etc.
> >>
> >> please reply ASAP
> >> dan
> >
> >More Info please?
>
> Yes I agree please send us more information.
>
> or you can e-mail me @    [e-mail]


You can post free jobs available or jobs wanted at 101 Hollywood Blvd's JOB JOBS JOBS page
http://home.navisfot.com/brewpubclub/101.htm
Cheers Merlin

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From: [e-mail] ( Scott Gillies)
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On Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:14:59 GMT, [e-mail] (Keith Matz)
wrote:
>Howdy...
>I am in the position of trying to set up a small Lightwave department
>at work and am stuck with which system to recommend. It's either 3
>dual pentium 200 workstations with 3 more render slaves, or 3 alpha
>500 stations with 1 extra slave.
>
>Now, it seems that with the alphas, we'll reap a much greater
>real-time reward, but I'm really unsure of the whole fx!32 emulation
>thing. We'll also be running photoshop, and my (limited) experience on
>the alpha at the vtu expo was that it absolutely choked the alpha!
>
>If anyone can add some insight or has been in a similar situation,
>your advice would be much appreciated!

Well, for what it's worth, we just upgraded our Raptor Reflex 433mHz
system to NT4.0 w/FX32 yesterday and are very happy. We've so far
installed Quicktime, Premeire and Photoshop. I have to say I was
impressed with the speed and stability of the machine. We've got a
133mHz Pentium workstation as well and I'd say that Photoshop under
FX32 compares favourably to it. It multitasks nicely too. It's been a
godsend to us.

Scott


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From: "D, Flahaut" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: .AVI Loader Plugin !!!
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 21:14:41 -0500
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bforce wrote:
>
> Well, I'm well under way to releasing a .AVI loader that will allow you
> to use AVI's as image sequences in LightWave, WITHOUT having to convert
> them to series of frames first!
>
> Current status: Making sure it handles VFW decompressor compatability.
>
> This will be a ShareWare Plugin. Registration price TBA.
>
> (Just short of a miracle for people like me with a video capture card
> that supports .AVI wrapper...)
>
> D. Flahaut
> [e-mail]
>
> Let me know if you're interested!

NOW AVAILABLE: www.en.com/users/bforce

BETA 1.b

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From: Elliot Bain <[e-mail]>
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Ernie Wright wrote:
>
> Elliot Bain asked:
>
> > Since the December issue of LWPro will probably never see the light of
> > waves, is there anywhere else we can read your article on DOF?
>
> That was December of 1994.  The article was included in the compilation
> book.
>
> - Ernie                              http://www.access.digex.net/~erniew

Well, I certainly stepped into *that* Circle of Confusion. <g>

--
Elliot Bain
Laurell Creative Services
614.459.4404

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From: [e-mail] (David Mclennan)
Subject: Lightwave availability in U.K. ??
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Hello all,
         Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if anybody in this newsgroup
knew about the availability of lightwave in the United Kingdom, or even better,
Scotland.  I e-mailed Newtek about this and also about the Student discounted version,
but I have yet to hear a responce.

I would greatly appreciate any help that anybody could give me on this.

Thanks in advance,

Dave.

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From: Joseph Maas <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Brodcast quality? Betacam SP or S-VHS
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:47:19 -0800
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They say that you can do brodcast quality renderings with LW, however,
in the Video Toster User mag all you see is S-VHS type hardware for sale
to record LW animations. Is'nt S-VHS for "Bronco Bob's Used Cars" local
TV spot, and Betacam SP for the true brodcast quality used for all of
the network stuff,,,, or am I missing something here?

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From: [e-mail] (Tim Nassauer)
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Subject: Re: Terrain for a FLYTHROUGH
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In article <[e-mail]>
Ernie Wright <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Tim Nassauer wrote:
>
> Get out your wallet.  WCS2 can create LW scene files with camera motion,
> zoom envelope, a sun light with orientation, color and level, fog, field
> rendering settings and references to stand-in landscape objects in LWOB
> format.  And the Z-buffer plug-in is intended for a *moving* camera.
>

Hot Damn. Thanks for the info!


-Tim





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From: Frank McMahon <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Meshpaint3D4LW?
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Miguel Marn wrote:
>
> I wonder if it is somehow possible to use a program like
> Meshpaint or Detailer for LW-objects. How is texturing
> handled and saved? How does LW render such an object?
> Are there any Plugs like Meshpaint or Detailer for LW?
> Please help me out. Thanx. Mig 23.

Last I talked with Fractal, they were talking with New Tek about a
Lightwave plug-in for Detailer. Detailer was coded to allow numerous
plug-ins for various 3D formats, they will probably appear on Fractal's
web site when available. For now I just export the object to Ray Dream
and render from there. Or I render right in Detailer, does not have
shadows or ray trading, but the output is top notch and you can even
antialias your 3D object's mask to assemble as floaters.

--
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WCTV - Westerly, Rhode Island
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From: "Chris" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Volumetric light and multiple glows
Date: 16 Nov 1996 03:38:28 GMT
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 Ok is there a nother way to do volumetric light istedad of creating a
meshed cone..?

And how about multiple glows of different strengths..?

Thanks Chris



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grundman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Er, excuse me guys, but shouldn't you be replying via email and not on
>the newsgroup? It's beginning to look like those lame 'me too' threads
>in the sex groups, heh heh.

You have time for sex groups?


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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
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To: Jeff Holinski <[e-mail]>

Jeff Holinski wrote:
>
> With all the arguments about SGI vs NT vs DEC I'm surprised that
> nobody here has mentioned the REASON for the high prices on the SGI
> machines.
> It's the color of the box. Dark colored computers are simply more
> expensive!

I don't know, have anyone seen the new IBM Aptiva ? The black one ? I
believe it's code name was Stealth... ;-) Anyhow, it's a sleek-looking
computer. It comes in two main boxes, the CPU is a one of the boxes,
which you can hide away, since the CD-ROM, floppy drives and buttons are
on a smaller but separate casing that you install under the monitor,
which itself is suspended on some sort of support. Very original design.

Jean-Eric

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From: Jean-Eric Hénault <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Collision Detection - need plugin
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To: Paradigm Productions - Charles Gaushell <[e-mail]>

Paradigm Productions - Charles Gaushell wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a Lightwave plugin that has collision detection?
>
> Thanks,
>
Of course,

Impact for LW is probably the best known.

Check it out at :

http://www.dynamic-realities.com/

Hope this helps!

Jean-Eric

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From: Johan Steen <[e-mail]>
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I've set up a screamernet network between my Pc and Amiga.
But the PC uses '\' to separate dirs and Amiga uses '/'.
This makes it messed up with paths when screamernet gets
the scenes. Anyone has any idea how to solve this?

/Johan


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From: nkshivan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mac, Electric Image Brodcast or Lightwave 3d.
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Joseph Maas wrote:
>
> I have been using Strata Studio Pro for years and it just does not cut
> it. I need a good, fast, clean, commercial package to knock out
> everything from PhotoRealistic stills for print media to animations for
> video and cd-rom. We mostly do corporate presentation work and about 10%
> character animation work.
> Would you suggest that I go with Electric Image Brodcast and FormZ OR
> the upcoming Mac version of Lightwave 3d and stick with Mac (probably
> upgrade to dual processor SuperMac along the way). OR OR OR haul off and
> get a Windows NT system and go with Studio MAX.
>
> What would you do?

Assuming you stay with the Mac, you're choice would depend on what you
biggest requirements are.  Download the specs and compare the "big"
features.  Personally, I have a bias toward lightwave (go figure).  If
fast rendering speed is important, however, go with EI.  Also, if you
want to delay getting FormZ, you can use SSP's modeler, which I've seen
done before. (Though I'd rather use FormZ, despite it's HUGE learning
curve).
One the small, annoying things side of the issue- if you go with
Lightwave you only have one dongle to deal with, with EI and FormZ you
have the damn hardware keys for BOTH programs hanging off your ADB port.

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From: "D, Flahaut" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LightWave's AVI and Video Codecs.
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Valeri wrote:
>
> Can Anyone help me?
> If i render my animation to AVI file,what  video compression codex is
> better (I have Indeo3.2;Cinepac;Intel VideoInteractive;Vdolive;Micrisoft
> Video) for best qualitat AVI?
> And what is (from qualitat) better for output to video tape:if I render
> uncompressed AVI 32 direct in LightWave and record it to tape; or I render
> Image-Sequence (for example .tga),load it in Premiere,compile in Premiere
> uncompressed 32-AVI,and record id to tape?
> For any suggestions thank you very much!
> Valeri.


Unless you have some form of video out to the tape deck, and a miracle
computer able to play full screen AVI's in a single video stream (sounds
kinda like superman...)  You need to get a single frame recording deck
or an animation recorder (PAR card, Perception, etc... Even a lower end
MiroDC20/30)  I have not yet heard of ANY machine capable of playback of
AVI's without a hardware compression card.

Dave

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From: Curt Gandy <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Macros Help in Modeler
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Paul Muns wrote:
>
> I am new to LW5 and have been working through the Tutorials on modeler
> and got to page 405, where #2 says to "Select the macro called Center
> from the Objects/Custom pop-up".  When I do that there is a "none" in
> every button.
>
> I checked to see where to Load (I assumed this is like loading the
> Images in before using them). I tried Loading one of the Plugins (*.p),
> but it didn't work.  Reading in the Reference Manual, page 363, I am
> supposed to have a "Configure List" option and it doesn't appear it be
> available in Modeler that I can find...there is no choice like that in
> Custom/Options.  I have Ver. 5.0m...is this a beta version that has some
> parts left out?  I have found the Plugin dir on the CD, but have no way
> of using any...so far.
>
> Help!
>
> -Paul
>
> I checked to see where to load (I assumed this is lik

***** To install Modeler-specific plug-ins:

Enter Modeler. Select the Objects panel (first button along the top of
the screen). Below it, drag your pointer over the "Custom" pop-up and
select the Add Plug-in option. Go to the Plug-ins directory, and enter
the Modeler directory there. Select and load any files with a ".p"
extension. You may need to repeat this step several times, once for each
plug-in that you find there.

You will get a response something like "Plugin Loaded Successfully" and
then you can use them. Check the "readme.txt" file on the cd-rom for
more info on adding layout plugins, etc.

Curt Gandy
World In Motion Productions
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